Final week projections....

[BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717]

8 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said:

That was my thinking too, Union won H2H so they’d still be #1. I don’t know the rules though. 

Head to head is first and foremost and the tiebreaker they look at first.

Except.... .when Gate City and Lee High are involved. I'm still scratching my head from 2 years ago trying to figure out what the hel& happened there.

[Hokiebird7 1,416]

2 minutes ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said:

Head to head is first and foremost and the tiebreaker they look at first.

Except.... .when Gate City and Lee High are involved. I'm still scratching my head from 2 years ago trying to figure out what the hel& happened there.

Don't think H2H has anything to do with it....strictly points....or am I wrong?

[Union_Fan 2,155]

Head 2 head is first, so Union should get the nod. I have Graham listed first on the tied scenario because I list alphabetically after points because I don't immediately know what the tie breakers are without looking them up.

[SWVAgridiron 1,469]

25 minutes ago, Hokiebird7 said:

Don't think H2H has anything to do with it....strictly points....or am I wrong?

Strictly points until there is a tie breaker. Then you look at head to head first and then it’s like overall record and then I think common opponents etc. 

[BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717]

1 hour ago, SWVAgridiron said:

Strictly points until there is a tie breaker. Then you look at head to head first and then it’s like overall record and then I think common opponents etc. 

It's obviously strictly points first; otherwise, there is no tie that needs to be broken. If the question is (I'm assuming this is the question) If Union and Graham tie in points, what is the first/next step of the tiebreaker? It's head to head if there are only two teams involved in the tiebreaker and in this case, it's only Union and Graham.

[Hokiebird7 1,416]

56 minutes ago, SWVAgridiron said:

Strictly points until there is a tie breaker. Then you look at head to head first and then it’s like overall record and then I think common opponents etc. 

Oh ok I read previous post wrong...thanks 

[S10SQUAREBODY4LIFE 239]

4 hours ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said:

Head to head is first and foremost and the tiebreaker they look at first.

Except.... .when Gate City and Lee High are involved. I'm still scratching my head from 2 years ago trying to figure out what the hel& happened there.

I vaguely remember that but can't recall the decision to put lee in instead of gate city that season.  Gate city beat them I recall, but it was top 4 and they outpointed them when they picked up eastern Montgomery.  I think that was it, don't recall everything. 

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Scenario:

Gate City running the table gets them the 3 (assuming the Graham victory over Tazewell) -- but given that's a mere 1-point projection:  Are there any semi-plausible single game (rider) results that could trip that up and allow Tazewell to hold on to 3rd regardless??

 

 

[Union_Fan 2,155]

24 minutes ago, Queue said:

Scenario:

Gate City running the table gets them the 3 (assuming the Graham victory over Tazewell) -- but given that's a mere 1-point projection:  Are there any semi-plausible single game (rider) results that could trip that up and allow Tazewell to hold on to 3rd regardless??

 

 

If Ft Chiswell defeats Galax, that could secure Tazewell the #3 spot in that scenario.

[Bulldogs52 482]

[Union_Fan 2,155]

Was going to wait until tomorrow to post these, but a lot of people are asking. In 2A West, Radford has clinched homefield through the semis with Union 2nd and Graham 3rd. Seeds 1-4 are all but wrapped up barring some craziness. 5-8 still have a lot of wiggle room. Va High/Marion are playing for the 6th seed. Tennessee and Kentucky have wrapped up their regular season, so there are no more rider points to be had from them.

If everything goes right for Tazewell, and that includes Marion over Va High, they would be tied with Ridgeview in points, but the Pack would win the tie with the best overall record.

Rank	Team	Record	Total Points	Rating
01.)	Union	9-1	275	27.5
02.)	Graham	9-1	261	26.1
03.)	Ridgeview	8-2	221	22.1
04.)	Tazewell	7-3	221	22.1
05.)	Gate City	6-4	206	20.6
06.)	Marion	5-5	180	18
07.)	Lee	4-6	169	16.9
08.)	Va High	4-6	166	16.6
09.)	John Battle	3-7	163	16.3
10.)	Lebanon	3-7	151	15.1
11.)	Central-Wise	1-9	137	13.7
12.)	Richlands	0-10	125	12.5

If Va High defeats Marion. This is also the only way that Battle can get into the playoffs, but they need help with a Central win over Grundy.

Rank	Team	Record	Total Points	Rating
01.)	Union	9-1	275	27.5
02.)	Graham	9-1	261	26.1
03.)	Ridgeview	8-2	223	22.3
04.)	Tazewell	7-3	221	22.1
05.)	Gate City	6-4	204	20.4
06.)	Va High	5-5	181	18.1
07.)	Lee	4-6	169	16.9
08.)	Marion	4-6	165	16.5
09.)	John Battle	3-7	164	16.4
10.)	Lebanon	3-7	151	15.1
11.)	Central-Wise	1-9	136	13.6
12.)	Richlands	0-10	125	12.5

 

Unlikely, but if GC defeats Ridgeview.

Rank	Team	Record	Total Points	Rating
01.)	Union	9-1	275	27.5
02.)	Graham	9-1	261	26.1
03.)	Gate City	7-3	222	22.2
04.)	Tazewell	7-3	221	22.1
05.)	Ridgeview	7-3	206	20.6
06.)	Va High	5-5	180	18
07.)	Lee	4-6	169	16.9
08.)	Marion	4-6	166	16.6
09.)	John Battle	3-7	164	16.4
10.)	Lebanon	3-7	151	15.1
11.)	Central-Wise	1-9	136	13.6
12.)	Richlands	0-10	125	12.5

For 1D, Honaker has the Top seed wrapped up with Twin Springs and Rye Cove fighting for #2. Patrick Henry appears to be locked into the top 4. Whether they get 3 or 4 will depend on RC/TS.

Rank	Team	Record	Total Points	Rating
01.)	Honaker	10-0	260	26
02.)	Rye Cove	9-1	222	22.2
03.)	Pat Henry-GS	7-3	196	19.6
04.)	Twin Springs	8-2	194	19.4
05.)	Holston	6-4	189	18.9
06.)	Grundy	5-5	183	18.3
07.)	Rural Retreat	5-5	175	17.5
08.)	Eastside	6-4	174	17.4
09.)	Chilhowie	4-6	159	15.9
10.)	Hurley	5-5	158	15.8
11.)	Thomas Walker	5-5	150	15
12.)	JI Burton	1-9	116	11.6
13.)	Northwood	1-9	109	10.9
14.)	Castlewood	1-9	107	10.7
15.)	Twin Valley	2-8	103	10.3

If  TS defeats RC.

Rank	Team	Record	Total Points	Rating
01.)	Honaker	10-0	258	25.8
02.)	Twin Springs	9-1	213	21.3
03.)	Rye Cove	8-2	203	20.3
04.)	Pat Henry-GS	7-3	196	19.6
05.)	Holston	6-4	189	18.9
06.)	Grundy	5-5	183	18.3
07.)	Rural Retreat	5-5	175	17.5
08.)	Eastside	6-4	174	17.4
09.)	Chilhowie	4-6	158	15.8
10.)	Hurley	5-5	158	15.8
11.)	Thomas Walker	5-5	150	15
12.)	JI Burton	1-9	116	11.6
13.)	Northwood	1-9	109	10.9
14.)	Castlewood	1-9	107	10.7
15.)	Twin Valley	2-8	103	10.3

If Chilhowie can get by Holston. 6-9 will be very close. A rider point here or there could make a difference. Twin Valley defeating East Mont could shake these up.

Rank	Team	Record	Total Points	Rating
01.)	Honaker	10-0	260	26
02.)	Rye Cove	9-1	224	22.4
03.)	Pat Henry-GS	7-3	196	19.6
04.)	Twin Springs	8-2	194	19.4
05.)	Grundy	5-5	183	18.3
06.)	Rural Retreat	5-5	176	17.6
07.)	Eastside	6-4	175	17.5
08.)	Chilhowie	5-5	175	17.5
09.)	Holston	5-5	174	17.4
10.)	Hurley	5-5	157	15.7
11.)	Thomas Walker	5-5	150	15
12.)	JI Burton	1-9	117	11.7
13.)	Northwood	1-9	109	10.9
14.)	Castlewood	1-9	107	10.7
15.)	Twin Valley	2-8	103	10.3

If Grundy loses to Central.

Rank	Team	Record	Total Points	Rating
01.)	Honaker	10-0	258	25.8
02.)	Rye Cove	9-1	222	22.2
03.)	Pat Henry-GS	7-3	195	19.5
04.)	Twin Springs	8-2	194	19.4
05.)	Holston	6-4	189	18.9
06.)	Eastside	6-4	175	17.5
07.)	Rural Retreat	5-5	175	17.5
08.)	Grundy	4-6	171	17.1
09.)	Chilhowie	4-6	159	15.9
10.)	Hurley	5-5	157	15.7
11.)	Thomas Walker	5-5	150	15
12.)	JI Burton	1-9	116	11.6
13.)	Northwood	1-9	109	10.9
14.)	Castlewood	1-9	107	10.7
15.)	Twin Valley	2-8	102	10.2

For 1C. After their victory over Bluefield, Grayson looked like the team to beat in 1C. I don't think they're the automatic favorite against Galax now. I had a feeling they might drop one to GW or Galax, but now they might just drop both. And if they do, it will look like this.

Rank	Team	Record	Total Points	Rating
01.)	Narrows	8-2	223	22.3
02.)	Galax	7-3	215	21.5
03.)	Grayson Co	8-2	214	21.4
04.)	George Wythe	7-3	208	20.8
05.)	Bath Co	9-1	204	20.4
06.)	Parry McCluer	6-4	173	17.3
07.)	Fort Chiswell	5-5	169	16.9
08.)	Giles	2-8	141	14.1
09.)	Auburn	2-8	126	12.6
10.)	East Mont	3-7	126	12.6
11.)	Craig Co	2-8	114	11.4
12.)	Bland Co	1-6	58	8.285714

Holy weak schedules Batman, a 9-1 Bath Co could finish 5th, but, if they do defeat Narrows, it would look like this.

Rank	Team	Record	Total Points	Rating
01.)	Bath Co	10-0	222	22.2
02.)	Galax	7-3	215	21.5
03.)	Grayson Co	8-2	214	21.4
04.)	George Wythe	7-3	208	20.8
05.)	Narrows	7-3	203	20.3
06.)	Parry McCluer	6-4	173	17.3
07.)	Fort Chiswell	5-5	169	16.9
08.)	Giles	2-8	140	14
09.)	Auburn	2-8	126	12.6
10.)	East Mont	3-7	126	12.6
11.)	Craig Co	2-8	114	11.4
12.)	Bland Co	1-6	58	8.285714

Assuming Narrows and Grayson both win Friday night, it will look like this.

Rank	Team	Record	Total Points	Rating
01.)	Grayson Co	9-1	231	23.1
02.)	Narrows	8-2	223	22.3
03.)	George Wythe	7-3	209	20.9
04.)	Bath Co	9-1	204	20.4
05.)	Galax	6-4	196	19.6
06.)	Parry McCluer	6-4	173	17.3
07.)	Fort Chiswell	5-5	169	16.9
08.)	Giles	2-8	141	14.1
09.)	Auburn	2-8	126	12.6
10.)	East Mont	3-7	126	12.6
11.)	Craig Co	2-8	114	11.4
12.)	Bland Co	1-6	58	8.285714

 

I didn't bother doing anything for 2C as the top 4 is set and 5-8 isn't getting by 1-4. I am looking forward to seeing how Radford gets through Appo and Gretna or Glenvar again. Will be interesting. If there are any other scenarios I can run, let me know.

[BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717]

Calpreps has it 22-17 in favor of Ridgeview over Gate City. With Ridgeview less heavy and effective on the pass this year, I don't know if that's a sure win for Ridgeview.

[BBHoops_18 206]

so Graham will most likely be playing Lee then Ridgeview.

[Union_Fan 2,155]

56 minutes ago, BBHoops_18 said:

so Graham will most likely be playing Lee then Ridgeview.

Certainly lining up that way.

[BearsFan88 117]

32 minutes ago, Union_Fan said:

Certainly lining up that way.

Ok. So for second round does it go:

 

Winner of 1/8 vs winner of 4/5

Winner of 2/7 vs winner of 3/6?

[SWVAgridiron 1,469]

@Union_Fan I have Giles and FC tied at 155 IF Giles beats them Friday going by the last scenario for 1C. Is that what you have?

[Gridiron60 2,555]

6 minutes ago, BearsFan88 said:

Ok. So for second round does it go:

 

Winner of 1/8 vs winner of 4/5

Winner of 2/7 vs winner of 3/6?

Yes, I believe so. We could potentially end up having a Tazewell/Union matchup, I don’t believe they’ve ever played each other. Someone correct me if I’m wrong. Possibly a Ridgeview/Graham matchup for the 3rd year in a row I think. 

[Duke2015 451]

7 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said:

Yes, I believe so. We could potentially end up having a Tazewell/Union matchup, I don’t believe they’ve ever played each other. Someone correct me if I’m wrong. Possibly a Ridgeview/Graham matchup for the 3rd year in a row I think. 

Think they played maybe Unions second or third season 

[Gridiron60 2,555]

Just now, Duke2015 said:

Think they played maybe Unions second or third season 

Thanks! I wasn’t sure if they’d ever been to Bullitt Park to play Union; everyone needs to experience that at least once. It’s one of the greatest atmospheres in the area. 

[sup_rbeast 296]

27 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said:

Yes, I believe so. We could potentially end up having a Tazewell/Union matchup, I don’t believe they’ve ever played each other. Someone correct me if I’m wrong. Possibly a Ridgeview/Graham matchup for the 3rd year in a row I think. 

They’ve played at least twice, IIRC. (Just checked, they have only played once besides jamborees etc, and that was the opening round of the 2014 playoffs with Union winning 30-20 at the park)

[Gridiron60 2,555]

7 minutes ago, sup_rbeast said:

They’ve played at least twice, IIRC.

Thanks! I wasn’t sure. I knew it hadn’t been recently if they had. 

[KW23 10]

Union Fan if Twin springs beats Rye Cove how do you have them with 213PTS.  I agree it will be 194 if they lose... But how will a win make them have 19 more points... Would it just be 11 more points.. So maximum they could have would be 205 not 213?

[KW23 10]

Also u mentioned twin valley vs east mont game. Who do u think wins?

[TS Fan 2]

1 hour ago, KW23 said:

Union Fan if Twin springs beats Rye Cove how do you have them with 213PTS.  I agree it will be 194 if they lose... But how will a win make them have 19 more points... Would it just be 11 more points.. So maximum they could have would be 205 not 213?

Ts would get 32 points for beating RyeCove. 16 for the win and 16 rider points. 

[KW23 10]

Oh yeah duh my bad