Leatherhead Larry 530 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Scott County School Board Meeting this Thursday, November 9th @ 6:30pm. I urge you to be in attendance if you are a Gate City Football player, parent, or fan. GC JOKER and Grapeape 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Vitale 342 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Leatherhead Larry said: Scott County School Board Meeting this Thursday, November 9th @ 6:30pm. I urge you to be in attendance if you are a Gate City Football player, parent, or fan. In support of Akers I assume? CriticalNoise, Deleted Account and SW_VA_boy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dick_Vitale said: In support of Akers I assume? FOUR MORE YEARS! Gil'sBlues, CriticalNoise, Ryan4VT and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swva_havok_fan 1,261 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Lifetime contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Crue 49 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 They are committed to him. They hired 3 assistants 2 of which are on provisional license. That's a commitment to a coach and his staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealLaneKiffin 7 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Blue_Crue said: They are committed to him. They hired 3 assistants 2 of which are on provisional license. That's a commitment to a coach and his staff. Last I checked. They hired 5 assistants. Not 3. 4 of which, not 2 are on provisionals. #FactCheck Blue_Crue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great City 210 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Just wondering if it shows commitment, or speaks toward the inability to find assistants who would work with Akers? I have no inside information. Just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTownTigers 82 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 It shows both. Bottom line is this...........a coach will coach his or her way to eventual success or the coach will coach his or her way to lack of success, IF....again....IF.....one more time....IF enough time is given to get a valid statistical sample. 3 years, in my opinion, is enough for a High School Coach to show improvement and show signs of "turning it around" or "getting worse." I believe this and I've always said on this board that every High School Coach should get 3 years. That includes Akers. I also think he will have another year at Gate City and this will be the year that makes him or breaks him (2018). The talent is down some, and if he turns it around, he will stay, but if he does not turn it around, he will be gone. In my opinion, he does not turn it around and is gone about 12 months from this posting. Understand this one key component that makes it tough in SWVA. A Head Coach does not get to pick his assistants 100%. When I write 100%, I mean.....he doesn't say I want A, B, C, and D, and these folks will be PAID. This means, he would need a spot for Coach A who is an English Teacher, or Coach B who is a Phy Ed Teacher, or Coach C who is a Biology-Science Teacher, and the school board simply accommodates or fills the spot for 3 or so assistants and pays them. This is not just SWVA, but for most of the country. At larger schools, especially in the South, the above actually happens. Therefore, if the Head Coach wants his assistants (Coaches A, B, C, and D) there is a high likelihood that only Coach A gets a job and is paid at the school, and the rest would have to be volunteer. Well, with the economy in SWVA, how many can afford to commit their time and not get paid? It's the same across most of the country, unless its the South, or it's a huge school and football power such as in Texas or larger cities in the US that has boosters that will simply give 50K per year to the "unpaid assistants." What is my point with all of the above? In SWVA or any small school, you really, really, really, really, better have a Head Coach like the man in Richlands that knows what he is doing and can "coach up" his assistants, and the importance of hiring the right guy truly means a huge difference in success (outcomes) compared to the other local-small schools in which you compete. GC JOKER and Grapeape 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Football 1,532 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 I dont what the circumstances are at Gate City as far as assistants go. But at Graham there are very few male teachers to begin with and even fewer who are willing to help coach. GMan or UVAO may know the exact number of teachers that are on the current staff but Im sure its very few. 2 or 3 maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTownTigers 82 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 It's similar in all of the United States or Southwest Va, unless you have a staff that has been there for 25 years, etc and has had success, or it's a large school in a city that is a football power or in the South and a large school who have a huge booster club that can pay the money. These teachers who are paid and on staff are almost always, not the personal choices of the Head Coaches. With that said, the majority aren't, but usually, you have 1 who is, and this can usually be worked with by local school boards even at smaller schools in our area that will give the Head Coach 1 assistant of choice and paid, but imagine a Head Coach coming to Gate City from a 5A Georgia School (already in the works by the way, but lets save that for post 10 months from now) and you say, I want Assistant A, B, and C, and they need to be paid. It's not happening. He will likely get 1,and the rest are the folks already on staff and teaching, or whoever he can get to volunteer. This reinforces the point that it's critically important to get the right Head Coach that can "coach up" is assistants, of which 80% of them aren't going to be his first personal choice. With that written, I'm interested in Graham in 2019 when the talent runs out. We'll see if UVAobserver or EH31 have the same comments about the G-Men as they have had about Gate City. Graham's on the clock....meaning....a state title or state title appearance is either in the next 5 weeks or next year, because after that (2019) we are going to see just how good Graham's Head Coach is and those assistants are. If 2019 is a solid season, then it will tell much about the coach, but if 2019 is a poor season, it may tell us much more about the Head Coach. Why bring this up? Because UVAObserver felt the need to chime in about a Gate City discussion (again); therefore, I simply returned the favor (again). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXSW 557 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, TTownTigers said: It's similar in all of the United States or Southwest Va, unless you have a staff that has been there for 25 years, etc and has had success, or it's a large school in a city that is a football power or in the South and a large school who have a huge booster club that can pay the money. These teachers who are paid and on staff are almost always, not the personal choices of the Head Coaches. With that said, the majority aren't, but usually, you have 1 who is, and this can usually be worked with by local school boards even at smaller schools in our area that will give the Head Coach 1 assistant of choice and paid, but imagine a Head Coach coming to Gate City from a 5A Georgia School (already in the works by the way, but lets save that for post 10 months from now) and you say, I want Assistant A, B, and C, and they need to be paid. It's not happening. He will likely get 1,and the rest are the folks already on staff and teaching, or whoever he can get to volunteer. This reinforces the point that it's critically important to get the right Head Coach that can "coach up" is assistants, of which 80% of them aren't going to be his first personal choice. With that written, I'm interested in Graham in 2019 when the talent runs out. We'll see if UVAobserver or EH31 have the same comments about the G-Men as they have had about Gate City. Graham's on the clock....meaning....a state title or state title appearance is either in the next 5 weeks or next year, because after that (2019) we are going to see just how good Graham's Head Coach is and those assistants are. If you think Herron is coming here you are nuts. And if he does I will apologize. ( I assume you are talking about Jeff Herron) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTownTigers 82 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Not talking about Herron, and shouldn't have wrote 5A Georgia. I was using that as an example of a big school in the South. Nope, I'm not talking about Herron, and I'm not talking about Georgia either. Lets just say South of Gate City and a much larger school. Time will tell. The issue to be worked out? The exact same thing we are talking about in this thread. Assistants, paid, unpaid, how many, etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghs73 157 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 13 minutes ago, TTownTigers said: It's similar in all of the United States or Southwest Va, unless you have a staff that has been there for 25 years, etc and has had success, or it's a large school in a city that is a football power or in the South and a large school who have a huge booster club that can pay the money. These teachers who are paid and on staff are almost always, not the personal choices of the Head Coaches. With that said, the majority aren't, but usually, you have 1 who is, and this can usually be worked with by local school boards even at smaller schools in our area that will give the Head Coach 1 assistant of choice and paid, but imagine a Head Coach coming to Gate City from a 5A Georgia School (already in the works by the way, but lets save that for post 10 months from now) and you say, I want Assistant A, B, and C, and they need to be paid. It's not happening. He will likely get 1,and the rest are the folks already on staff and teaching, or whoever he can get to volunteer. This reinforces the point that it's critically important to get the right Head Coach that can "coach up" is assistants, of which 80% of them aren't going to be his first personal choice. With that written, I'm interested in Graham in 2019 when the talent runs out. We'll see if UVAobserver or EH31 have the same comments about the G-Men as they have had about Gate City. Graham's on the clock....meaning....a state title or state title appearance is either in the next 5 weeks or next year, because after that (2019) we are going to see just how good Graham's Head Coach is and those assistants are. If 2019 is a solid season, then it will tell much about the coach, but if 2019 is a poor season, it may tell us much more about the Head Coach. Why bring this up? Because UVAObserver felt the need to chime in about a Gate City discussion (again); therefore, I simply returned the favor (again). I think if you go back and check you may find many at graham had a lot to say about coach marrs during his time ashead coach and how he ran the program into the ground.thst alone would give people from graham a bit of insight to comment on gate city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,518 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, ghs73 said: I think if you go back and check you may find many at graham had a lot to say about coach marrs during his time ashead coach and how he ran the program into the ground.thst alone would give people from graham a bit of insight to comment on gate city And Mike Williams afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXSW 557 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 15 minutes ago, TTownTigers said: Not talking about Herron, and shouldn't have wrote 5A Georgia. I was using that as an example of a big school in the South. Nope, I'm not talking about Herron, and I'm not talking about Georgia either. Lets just say South of Gate City and a much larger school. Time will tell. The issue to be worked out? The exact same thing we are talking about in this thread. Assistants, paid, unpaid, how many, etc.? Oh no, is it a Sensabaugh rumor or are we going after Stacey Carter. If it's Carter, the only two he takes everywhere with him are the Nelson brothers, maybe we could lure Whitten away from Betsy Hmm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leatherhead Larry 530 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 A cancer will spread, and eventually kill what it infects. If you care, show up tomorrow. That’s all I ask. Don’t accept the state of the program in the shape it is. Grapeape 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTownTigers 82 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 4 hours ago, ghs73 said: I think if you go back and check you may find many at graham had a lot to say about coach marrs during his time ashead coach and how he ran the program into the ground.thst alone would give people from graham a bit of insight to comment on gate city I agree with you, but there is a difference in insight and honest discussion versus true hatred for a program and piling on at every opportunity. There's a big difference. Some non GC fans have posted with honest insight and with the attempt at true dialogue in these GC threads, but a few have taken another route. And again in this thread, you have a poster (same one in UVAobserver) offering nothing to the discussion. It's a simple example of childish behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 16 hours ago, 99Bama said: I dont what the circumstances are at Gate City as far as assistants go. But at Graham there are very few male teachers to begin with and even fewer who are willing to help coach. GMan or UVAO may know the exact number of teachers that are on the current staff but Im sure its very few. 2 or 3 maybe? You’re in the ballpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapeape 259 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 13 hours ago, UVAObserver said: You’re in the ballpark. Gym teachers should have to coach something. Otherwise, its ridiculous that a gym teacher is on the same pay scale as a core subject regular ed teacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealLaneKiffin 7 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 15 hours ago, Grapeape said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tru Blue 72 423 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 9:55 PM, Leatherhead Larry said: Scott County School Board Meeting this Thursday, November 9th @ 6:30pm. I urge you to be in attendance if you are a Gate City Football player, parent, or fan. what happened at the meeting??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXSW 557 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Blue 72 said: what happened at the meeting??? Must have not went to the satisfaction of most, or the board would be active about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason 299 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Blue 72 said: what happened at the meeting??? From what I was told a few showed up but never spoke. Board has not made a final decision yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, Jason said: From what I was told a few showed up but never spoke. About what I would expect. Much easier to type a few letters and click “submit” than to put a name and a face behind it. olewave and Grapeape 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
who? 85 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Heard from a few people around Lynchburg that Akers has applied for multiple teaching and coaching positions in and around the area....maybe he smarter than GC folks give him credit for Grapeape 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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