GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 Bulldogs52 and Bearcat Dad 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat Dad 439 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 Forgive me if I’ve missed something, but is this legit? EDIT: Ok, wow! I just researched the video. Unbelievable!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BBN 128 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 What game was this in? That's unreal...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 South Greene and Oneida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapeape 259 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 https://ihoneida.com/2018/11/11/notebook-oneida-deserved-better-any-team-wouldve/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 932 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 The wide angle view is even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 932 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just read the article linked above and I would be very surprised if an officials observer would be in the press box making such comments in the manner portrayed in the article. They probably shouldnt be an observer if so. chipinbogey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokie101 153 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 A lot of these "bad calls" are just part of the human element of the game. High school doesn't have replay so you aren't going to get the correct call 100% of the time. The article is obviously biased when it comes to the team that wasn't getting the good end of the calls but it was nice that he mentioned it wasn't the only reason that team lost the game. The chain guys, however, shouldn't be allowed on the field anymore. You don't want guys who may not have anything to do with a program destroying all credibility that it may have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipinbogey 150 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Why were the chains on the home side is my first question? Unless it's similar to a Hurley setup where they are the team facing the press box, that should never be an issue. That matter is trivial compared to the matter that the HL (maybe LJ in this case) did not do a great job in their pregame with the chain crew. You HAVE to keep your eyes on them and most of the time in the back of your head because it is frowned upon to look back. A lot of them do amazing jobs for nothing more than a hot dog and bottle of water at half time, if they even get that. This isn't on the line judge(as the heavily biased article states) as much as the chain crew. The chain crew is an essential part of the game, and I remind everyone I have the pleasure of working with that by accepting that position, they forfeit all bias and are under the direction of the head linesman and referee. This seems like it wasn't communicated, and if it was, it was not communicated strongly enough. 1instripes, I'll agree that probably shouldn't be a line of commentary made by an observer, however, I do not find it shocking. I've learned in my relatively short officiating life span that there are plenty of "cut throat" officials everywhere who never miss a chance to throw their brother under the bus to keep the heat off of their neck. Mountain Football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, chipinbogey said: Why were the chains on the home side is my first question? Unless it's similar to a Hurley setup where they are the team facing the press box, that should never be an issue. That matter is trivial compared to the matter that the HL (maybe LJ in this case) did not do a great job in their pregame with the chain crew. You HAVE to keep your eyes on them and most of the time in the back of your head because it is frowned upon to look back. A lot of them do amazing jobs for nothing more than a hot dog and bottle of water at half time, if they even get that. This isn't on the line judge(as the heavily biased article states) as much as the chain crew. The chain crew is an essential part of the game, and I remind everyone I have the pleasure of working with that by accepting that position, they forfeit all bias and are under the direction of the head linesman and referee. This seems like it wasn't communicated, and if it was, it was not communicated strongly enough. 1instripes, I'll agree that probably shouldn't be a line of commentary made by an observer, however, I do not find it shocking. I've learned in my relatively short officiating life span that there are plenty of "cut throat" officials everywhere who never miss a chance to throw their brother under the bus to keep the heat off of their neck. Press box and stands are all on one side of the field....home team chose to be on opposite side of press box where the chains are located. Chains are in the correct place, home team, well, that's questionable... These guys blatantly moved the chains/line to gain down the field as the play was happening. Watch the video, the players and coaches all saw this happening...one of the players even turns his back to it surely because he knows what is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Football 1,532 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Doesn't Giles have the chain crew on the "Home" side as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipinbogey 150 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 55 minutes ago, GMan said: Press box and stands are all on one side of the field....home team chose to be on opposite side of press box where the chains are located. Chains are in the correct place, home team, well, that's questionable... These guys blatantly moved the chains/line to gain down the field as the play was happening. Watch the video, the players and coaches all saw this happening...one of the players even turns his back to it surely because he knows what is happening. Ok, if it benefits that particular bench for them to be adjusted, who on that sideline is going to say any different? The home team can choose whichever bench they prefer, there is no rule that dictates which side a team's bench must be on, so it isn't really all that questionable, although our eyes and brains have trained to be dark jerseys with backs to the press box. I saw it on Twitter over the weekend, so I could definitely see that they moved. What I couldn't see is the clip man, which would take some real dedication and sneakiness to make that move that quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokie777 72 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Was it 4th down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCITYHOO 110 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, 99Bama said: Doesn't Giles have the chain crew on the "Home" side as well? Sure do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 22 hours ago, Hokie777 said: Was it 4th down? Do you not see the down marker that says "4"??? cityofRaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield researcher 1,195 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Has there been any repercussions for these cheaters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfan1 125 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Possibly no playoffs for any of the teams next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 23 hours ago, RCITYHOO said: Sure do Yeah we cheat like that crew did...that's why we are still playing this Friday...oh wait lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Bluefield researcher said: Has there been any repercussions for these cheaters? No, and according to the TSSAA Executive Director, nothing inappropriate occurred. Officials knew what was going on and felt the spot was correct. Interview below. Skip to 31:00 for the question about the chains. https://soundcloud.com/5starpreps/episode-25-tssaa-executive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokie777 72 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 5 hours ago, GMan said: Do you not see the down marker that says "4"??? Looks like after the play they were lining up for another down.. And yes I am not blind ..smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCITYHOO 110 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Hokiebird7 said: Yeah we cheat like that crew did...that's why we are still playing this Friday...oh wait lol Not saying Giles cheats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, Hokie777 said: Looks like after the play they were lining up for another down.. And yes I am not blind ..smh Yeh, becasue they thought they got the two yards they needed... Hokie777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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