Duke2015 451 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Just now, Hokiebird7 said: True but thats better than what we have now....districts meant something....now they mean squat Yeah I’d like to see them go to 6 and give top 2 a bye. That would reward the top two teams and prevent a injury in a blowout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHoss 249 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 20 hours ago, sup_rbeast said: While there’s no trophy for getting in, having a first round bracket including teams who don’t have excellent (or at least very good) records lessens the accomplishment for those who do. I’ve seen and remember in the past 8 and 9 win teams failing to get in. Thing is, before those seasons ever started, every team in the region knew how high the bar to get in was…and that turned several games per year into must win games. IMO it gave the season more meaning and gave the playoffs a lot more meaning. I’m not saying it has to go back to that, but I wouldn’t mind it, either. The way it sits right now (especially in 2D where there are only 2 districts) 4 is plenty, 6 is a tad much, and 8 is just making teams who deserve to be there beat several who don’t. I think everyone understands the VHSL gets an extra round of ticket sales, but that’s just part of the problem. The extra round of ticket sales is...well..why we have the extra round, and that's 100% the responsibility of the VH$L (and other organizations in different states). How much are playoff tickets in VA? $8-10? They're $10 here. For the FHSAA, the first round of the 9 class system will produce over $1.3+ million based on an average attendance of 1K. That's a big chunk of change in their budget, and they couldn't possibly care less if they have blowout games, and St Thomas Aquinas doesn't feel like their 9-1 season and #10 national ranking is cheapened by mercy ruling Plantaion this weekend. I'd also wage that while the VH$L probably "only" raked in around $800K in the opening round, that they didn't care that Jamestown got railed by Phoebus, and I'd also bet that Phoebus didn't feel their 11-0 record was "lessened" by the game. I agree that there needs to be less teams, but the people (VH$L) who control the show aren't giving up a big chunk of change that helps their operating budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LacesOutDan23 53 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 8:20 PM, sup_rbeast said: I think the results of the Region D playoffs top to bottom showed that. Everyone talks up this team or that team as having a chance at an upset and then 1-4 advances. IMO 4 is the right number, but I could live with 6 to satisfy the give em a trophy crowd. I'm with the six. Maybe make it like the NFL playoffs and give the top seeds bye weeks. But for everyone arguing too many classes, too many teams in the playoffs has to remember that the VHSL makes bank off these games and money will always overrule. You're more likely to get more teams and games than less, since that would be less money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, LacesOutDan23 said: But for everyone arguing too many classes, too many teams in the playoffs has to remember that the VHSL makes bank off these games and money will always overrule. You're more likely to get more teams and games than less, since that would be less money. All of this is hypothetical considering anything VH$L does will be to maximize profit. My contention that 6 classifications is too many is rooted in common sense. Make the smallest classification exclusively for the smallest schools in the state, regardless of the number of schools. Pick a cut-off number that makes sense and stick to it, even if the asshole at Grayson County threatens a lawsuit. Then divide the remainder of the state into three equal divisions. Four classifications is plenty. Anything more is watered down and nonsensical. Everybody understands this is about money. It always has been with VH$L. That doesn't mean that it's in anyone's best interest. Keeping 6 classifications and only allowing 6 teams to qualify out of each region would still be fewer teams and fewer games, which is less revenue. Doing the right thing often means giving something up. Pickett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield researcher 1,195 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 In Maryland everyone makes the playoffs BUT a school can simply decline the invitation. Several have done this because they knew that they were not going to be able to compete at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V-Cats 472 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 You guys wanna see a dead body? Liam McPoyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 I appreciate the Stand by Me reference, but this might have been worse than seeing Ray Brower. haha V-Cats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT FAN 91 119 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 9:10 PM, Hokiebird7 said: Agree....if you can't finish at least .500 you don't deserve a reward of a playoff berth Not saying you're wrong but how many teams would just start playing weaker schedules just to get in? Hokie Bound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, MT FAN 91 said: Not saying you're wrong but how many teams would just start playing weaker schedules just to get in? Bath County called and said to leave them out of this! Hokie Bound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said: Bath County called and said to leave them out of this! Seems to have worked for Narrows so far. What? Too soon? BandanaVTDavis4321 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 45 minutes ago, sixcat said: Seems to have worked for Narrows so far. What? Too soon? In defense of Narrows (God, can't believe I'm doing this) outside of their district, they do play Honaker, James Monroe, Holston, Chilhowie, Giles. Their bad luck or kind of bad luck, Holston, Chilhowie and Giles ain't nothing like they were. Giles goes back further than Chilhowie and Holston for not being good, but Chilhowie and Holston I guess more recent fall offs, so Narrows it appears....has tried. Of course, they have to play their district schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said: In defense of Narrows (God, can't believe I'm doing this) outside of their district, they do play Honaker, James Monroe, Holston, Chilhowie, Giles. Their bad luck or kind of bad luck, Holston, Chilhowie and Giles ain't nothing like they were. Giles goes back further than Chilhowie and Holston for not being good, but Chilhowie and Holston I guess more recent fall offs, so Narrows it appears....has tried. Of course, they have to play their district schedule. Very true. There's no comparing the non-district schedule Narrows plays to the one Bath plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPrideNation 82 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 I suggest go back to the East/west split with a 12 team bracket on each side. That would give 4 byes but should cut the bottom hangers on off. Crossover the semis to give the best possible chance of the two best teams meeting up in the finals. As for people scamming to get a better seeding, the power point system is flawed so there needs to be more separation of points for classification and a SOS component as well. You shouldn’t be able to eat cupcakes all season and get rewarded with a prime seed in the playoffs. It’s sensible to consider the team you won against opponents not just the win total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, RedPrideNation said: I suggest go back to the East/west split with a 12 team bracket on each side. For the most part, I think that's a good idea. The lower classifications typically won't have an issue with the travel either. Once you start getting into the larger schools, the unwillingness to travel more than a few miles down the road becomes an real issue. The folks in Tidewater, NOVA and Richmond fail to accept the notion that the state extends quite a ways west of Charlottesville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPrideNation 82 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 I hear ya and if there is that much heartburn they can have 35 teams battle for their 12 spots and not worry about traveling until the semis. It’s asinine that high school sports are a small microcosm of the way Richmond works for us more rural folks. Nova and Hampton have the highest population density so they get to set the “rules” for about everything. Starting to think the mountain should be the boarder and we do our own thing up and down the I81 corridor…….. sixcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 hours ago, MT FAN 91 said: Not saying you're wrong but how many teams would just start playing weaker schedules just to get in? Make districts mean something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, RedPrideNation said: I suggest go back to the East/west split with a 12 team bracket on each side. That would give 4 byes but should cut the bottom hangers on off. Crossover the semis to give the best possible chance of the two best teams meeting up in the finals. As for people scamming to get a better seeding, the power point system is flawed so there needs to be more separation of points for classification and a SOS component as well. You shouldn’t be able to eat cupcakes all season and get rewarded with a prime seed in the playoffs. It’s sensible to consider the team you won against opponents not just the win total. Cross overs imo are travel that don't need to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPrideNation 82 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 @Hokiebird7 what about mixed districts? We have 3 class 3, 3 class 2 and a class 1 in the ‘doah so a district title wouldn’t directly translate currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, RedPrideNation said: @Hokiebird7 what about mixed districts? We have 3 class 3, 3 class 2 and a class 1 in the ‘doah so a district title wouldn’t directly translate currently. True....didn't think about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPrideNation 82 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 There truly isn’t an easy answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, RedPrideNation said: There truly isn’t an easy answer Nope! That's why I don't bother with the discussion. No matter the solution, an unforeseen problem will arise eventually. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 Do away with all districts in HS Football only, not other sports, but Football only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird 17 Report Share Posted November 14, 2023 We have region alignments just split the regions into districts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWVAgridiron 1,469 Report Share Posted November 14, 2023 Not sure if it had already been mentioned or not but Phoebus scored 21 points in the first 48 seconds of the game off of 2 fumbles and a pick 6. Their 4th and 5th touchdowns came from punt returns. They were up 35-0 after the first 5 and half minutes of the game with the offense only running 3 total plays. Gridiron60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Sasquatch 1,865 Report Share Posted November 14, 2023 https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/highschool/2023/11/12/virginia-high-school-football-team-wins-104-0-but-the-end/71561605007/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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