sixcat 2,920 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, SWVAgridiron said: Giles held Radford to 35 points. That means Giles has a better defense than Appo and Riverheads along with majority of Radford’s regular season opponents. I like this new logic, it makes the Spartan defense look pretty good. Essex held Galax to 7. Since Giles held Galax to 14, this new logic must suggest Giles is a touchdown (or 2 safeties and a field goal) behind Essex !!! Optimal62, SWVAgridiron, BandanaVTDavis4321 and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke2015 451 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, SWVAgridiron said: Giles held Radford to 35 points. That means Giles has a better defense than Appo and Riverheads along with majority of Radford’s regular season opponents. I like this new logic, it makes the Spartan defense look pretty good. Radford couldn’t even score on Union didn’t play but still didn’t score Union best D in 2A Gridiron60, SWVAgridiron, Optimal62 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWVAgridiron 1,469 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, sixcat said: Essex held Galax to 7. Since Giles held Galax to 14, this new logic must suggest Giles is a touchdown (or 2 safeties and a field goal) behind Essex !!! And we scored 6 points on Galax so our offense is just as good as the Trojans!! We should’ve been playing Galax in the State Championship!!!! Optimal62, sixcat, Liam McPoyle and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,920 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just now, SWVAgridiron said: And we scored 6 points on Galax so our offense is just as good as the Trojans!! We should’ve been playing Galax in the State Championship!!!! Dam, I love this new logic. This could be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 LOL, yep, Giles held Radford to 35 so it certainly means Giles was one of the better defenses Radford played all year. Much like the Glenvar argument, the Bluefield Beavers nearly beat Graham and this means Bluefield could have stacked right up with Radford and might have been the 2nd best team in Class 2 Virginia this year if they were in Virginia. P.S. Don't pay attention to the Giles and Bluefield overall records or the other 9 games played, let's just cherry pick one data point, make a conclusion from it and stick with it, because we don't do "fallacy." Gridiron60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWVAgridiron 1,469 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said: LOL, yep, Giles held Radford to 35 so it certainly means Giles was one of the better defenses Radford played all year. Much like the Glenvar argument, the Bluefield Beavers nearly beat Graham and this means Bluefield could have stacked right up with Radford and might have been the 2nd best team in Class 2 Virginia this year if they were in Virginia. P.S. Don't pay attention to the Giles and Bluefield overall records or the other 9 games played, let's just cherry pick one data point, make a conclusion from it and stick with it, because we don't do "fallacy." Giles and Graham are also the only teams to hold Radford to 7 points in the second half so you could say our defense is just as good as the G-Men! BandanaVTDavis4321 and Gridiron60 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam McPoyle 1,863 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 WHO IS THE SECOND BEST TEAM IN 2A? FACTORS CONSIDERED *** --Marion scored 22 points on Va High, while Graham scored only 20 --Marion scored 40 points against Lebanon in game shortened for weather at 4:20 in the 3Q. A proportional calculation results in Marion scoring 60 points on the Pioneers over 4 quarters, while Graham scored only 59. --Radford defeats both Graham and Riverheads CONCLUSIONS: Marion>Graham Radford>Graham Radford>Riverheads Therefore, Radford and Marion>Graham and Riverheads SECOND BEST TEAM IN 2A: Marion Scarlet Hurricanes ***Any other factors that contradict this assertion, I have personally deemed irrelevant or inconsequential including head-to-head, outcomes of common opponents, W-L records, margin of victory, strength of schedule, computer rankings, and common sense. Ryan4VT, BandanaVTDavis4321, Gridiron60 and 4 others 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro 30 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, Liam McPoyle said: WHO IS THE SECOND BEST TEAM IN 2A? *FACTORS CONSIDERED AKA "THE FACTS": --Marion scored 22 points on Va High, while Graham scored only 20 --Marion scored 40 points against Lebanon in game shortened for weather at 4:20 in the 3Q. A proportional calculation results in Marion scoring 60 points on the Pioneers over 4 quarters, while Graham scored only 59. --Radford defeats both Graham and Riverheads CONCLUSIONS: Marion>Graham Radford>Graham Radford>Riverheads Therefore, Radford and Marion>Graham and Riverheads Congratulations to the Marion Scarlet Hurricanes on being the 2nd best team in 2A! *Any other factors that contradict this assertion, I have personally deemed irrelevant or inconsequential including head-to-head, outcomes of common opponents, W-L records, margin of victory, strength of schedule, computer rankings, and common sense. Dude, you need to be tested lol BandanaVTDavis4321 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadCat 26 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 12:19 PM, Optimal62 said: Talbot didn’t know where he was at after that hit a dr on the Radford sideline said he was clearly concussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadCat 26 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 1:11 PM, breckt said: Nope Facebook shut down the Radford football group where she had been streaming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadCat 26 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 1:20 PM, BigWinners said: Riverheads coming apart. Two unsportsmanlike penalties. the player and coaches should be embarrassed for what he did to get those penalties and get ejected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, RadCat said: the player and coaches should be embarrassed for what he did to get those penalties and get ejected. I just caught it on radio, what did he do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke2015 451 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Liam McPoyle said: WHO IS THE SECOND BEST TEAM IN 2A? ***FACTORS CONSIDERED: --Marion scored 22 points on Va High, while Graham scored only 20 --Marion scored 40 points against Lebanon in game shortened for weather at 4:20 in the 3Q. A proportional calculation results in Marion scoring 60 points on the Pioneers over 4 quarters, while Graham scored only 59. --Radford defeats both Graham and Riverheads CONCLUSIONS: Marion>Graham Radford>Graham Radford>Riverheads Therefore, Radford and Marion>Graham and Riverheads Congratulations to the Marion Scarlet Hurricanes on being the 2nd best team in 2A! ***Any other factors that contradict this assertion, I have personally deemed irrelevant or inconsequential including head-to-head, outcomes of common opponents, W-L records, margin of victory, strength of schedule, computer rankings, and common sense. When will you be breaking down #3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadCat 26 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 23 minutes ago, BigWinners said: I just caught it on radio, what did he do? he called the officials by a name that showed his narrow mind. Gridiron60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,555 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 43 minutes ago, RadCat said: Facebook shut down the Radford football group where she had been streaming I’m surprised they hadn’t shut it down before now. I remember a couple years ago another person got in trouble for doing that. I bet it has something to do with NFHS or VHSL rules or illegally broadcasting. I’m just speculating, I don’t really know. It’s kind of a shame to shut the group down. They could have just removed the videos of the games that were streamed without shutting down the group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,557 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Liam McPoyle said: If only there was a scientific way to rank teams objectively, free from personal biases, opinions, emotions, and logical fallacies. Oh wait, there actually is. CalPreps Final 2023 Rankings Rank W-L Rating SOS Opponents' W-L 1 Radford (VA) 15-0 29.1 -2.2 103-78 2 Riverheads (Staunton, VA) 13-2 20 0.3 103-71 3 Graham (Bluefield, VA) 12-2 17.1 -4.8 97-70 4 Central (Woodstock, VA) 12-1 12 -6.2 87-64 5 Union (Big Stone Gap, VA) 11-2 9.9 -9.8 81-68 6 Glenvar (Salem, VA) 10-3 9.8 -3.9 81-71 7 Clarke County (Berryville, VA) 9-3 5.8 -9.6 66-71 8 Strasburg (VA) 8-3 3.5 -8.8 66-57 9 Poquoson (VA) 10-4 2.1 -7.8 90-76 10 Appomattox County (Appomattox, VA) 6-5 1.1 -5.1 83-46 11 Gretna (VA) 9-3 0.4 -12.4 71-66 12 Tazewell (VA) 8-4 -0.2 -8.8 80-63 13 Buckingham (VA) 9-2 -1.7 -20.7 53-69 14 Fort Defiance (VA) 7-4 -3.3 -5.2 67-56 15 King William (VA) 6-6 -6.3 -11 77-59 16 Gate City (VA) 8-4 -8 -12.4 70-65 17 Madison County (Madison, VA) 5-6 -9.8 -8.2 72-52 18 Stuarts Draft (VA) 5-6 -12 -9.3 62-63 19 Floyd County (Floyd, VA) 3-8 -15.6 -4.2 78-51 20 Ridgeview (Clintwood, VA) 7-4 -17.1 -20.4 51-70 21 Lunenburg Central (Victoria, VA) 8-3 -17.1 -27.6 56-69 22 Patrick County (Stuart, VA) 5-6 -17.7 -10.7 65-61 23 Amelia County (Amelia Court House, VA) 9-4 -18.5 -22.6 75-70 24 Chatham (VA) 7-4 -19.2 -19.1 52-69 25 Southampton (Courtland, VA) 6-6 -21.2 -23.2 70-65 26 Marion (VA) 5-6 -21.8 -16.7 60-64 27 Virginia (Bristol, VA) 4-7 -22.6 -13.9 72-55 28 Bruton (Williamsburg, VA) 5-6 -25.5 -20.1 65-60 29 Dan River (Ringgold, VA) 3-7 -27.3 -17 59-55 30 Battle [John S.] (Bristol, VA) 3-7 -27.5 -18 57-54 31 Lee (Jonesville, VA) 4-7 -27.9 -18.1 67-58 32 Lebanon (VA) 3-7 -28.5 -19.1 59-56 33 Liberty (Bedford, VA) 0-10 -28.7 11.9 78-42 34 James River (Buchanan, VA) 3-8 -29.8 -5.8 71-57 35 Greensville County (Emporia, VA) 5-5 -31.1 -29.3 57-55 36 Nandua (Onley, VA) 5-6 -32.3 -30.1 56-62 37 Luray (VA) 2-8 -33 -16.3 53-57 38 Nelson County (Lovingston, VA) 4-6 -33.3 -27.8 47-63 39 Richlands (VA) 0-10 -35.8 -7.2 75-45 40 Prince Edward County (Farmville, VA) 3-7 -38.5 -26.8 60-54 41 Central [Kelly/Pound] (Norton, VA) 1-9 -40.6 -16.9 60-52 42 Nottoway (VA) 2-8 -41 -26.6 51-59 43 Martinsville (VA) 0-10 -47.8 -15.1 54-55 44 Randolph-Henry (Charlotte Court House, VA) 1-9 -48.2 -28.3 52-57 45 Marshall [John] (Richmond, VA) 1-8 -49.7 -19.9 61-42 46 Page County (Shenandoah, VA) 1-9 -51 -20.3 58-49 47 Arcadia (Oak Hall, VA) 5-5 -51.8 -46.7 31-63 48 Mountain View (Quicksburg, VA) 3-6 -55.6 -47.5 36-51 49 Windsor (VA) 2-8 -59.6 -39.6 52-57 WE FINALLY BEAT SOMEONE!!! Graham32, Gridiron60 and Liam McPoyle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,555 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Ryan4VT said: WE FINALLY BEAT SOMEONE!!! Actually you beat 10 someone’s so technically makes you 10-10 on the season! .500 to end the season, not too shabby. You even beat out the Walmart Warriors! 👊 Graham32 and Liam McPoyle 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoBob 223 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 10 hours ago, Gridiron60 said: I’m surprised they hadn’t shut it down before now. I remember a couple years ago another person got in trouble for doing that. I bet it has something to do with NFHS or VHSL rules or illegally broadcasting. I’m just speculating, I don’t really know. It’s kind of a shame to shut the group down. They could have just removed the videos of the games that were streamed without shutting down the group. Then the NFHS needs to do better! Videos not following the play. Break aways or long passes and all the camera catches is the celebration in the endzone. The facebook folks put a better product out there for free than what people were paying for. Again, a VHSL money grab. RadCat, Gridiron60, Graham32 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_bean 1,058 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 8:30 AM, BoBob said: Then the NFHS needs to do better! Videos not following the play. Break aways or long passes and all the camera catches is the celebration in the endzone. The facebook folks put a better product out there for free than what people were paying for. Again, a VHSL money grab. I know they cant do every game but they should do for the championships like WV does. Those are better than some of the college games you watch production wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,742 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, stu_bean said: I know they cant do every game but they should do for the championships like WV does. Those are better than some of the college games you watch production wise. WV, KY, and TN were all on NFHS this year. All had different start times, I watched a lot of football that weekend. TNs coverage was the best but it was the crew that does their TV coverage, KY and WV were solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,920 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 Raycom Sports does the state championship games in North Carolina under the umbrella of NCHSAA. It's like watching an ACC game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,518 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 Does TN or NC use instant replay challenges like WV does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,920 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, EH31 said: Does TN or NC use instant replay challenges like WV does? I don't believe NC does. I don't remember ever seeing one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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