This comment you made is almost verbatim as to how that convo went. I know because I was the youth president for 9 years (during Reeds 2 year reign). After our youth season, where we had won another title, I met with reed to discuss direction for next season. I did this with every coach after every year. When we started talking it was like you said. His special teams were bad because of LL. His line wasn’t physical because of LL. His backs wouldn’t hit the holes because of LL. His defense could cover the pass because of LL. An hour and a half I sat there being talked down to about a program I poured my life into. I took pride in. Even though we are at Union now, I’m still proud of the program I ran at JJK/Central. So I took this personal but really could do much but take notes as my son was going to be a freshmen the following season and I wasn’t giving him any ammo to use against him. He left wise a couple months later thank God. He wouldn’t let his other coaches coach. And he had two former head coaches and a future head coach on his staff. After his first year, about half the staff left. Gate city fans were happy we had him. Central people were glad he left. Not a people person. May be the best husband and Dad on the planet. But not a people person.