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  1. 8 points
    UVAObserver

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    Given my age, I fall square between Generation X and the Millennials (though technically I fall in the latter category, I have little in common with 1990s babies). When I was 5, I had 13 channels on TV. When I was 17, I could download 1000 songs per week off the Internet. This is a prelude for what I’m about to say. There’s a constant pining on this board for the good old days, when men were men; when every single boy played football; and when a succession of presidents with dreadful foreign policy had the U.S. embroiled in unwinnable wars. In case y’all haven’t noticed, our population is on average roughly 25% less than what it was back then. Since fewer of the remaining 75% are having babies than their ancestors (mostly because the young ones fled the region leaving the old ones behind), our schools are roughly 40% smaller than in the era of LSD and 8-tracks. For schools like Pocahontas, that means closure. For schools like Garden and Whitewood, that means consolidation. For every 10 linemen you had in 1974, you have about 6 now. What used to be depth now is simply having enough to play iron-man. In addition, what most of the Baby Boomers and Gen Xers bemoan as “picking up a controller” is in reality becoming more oriented in STEM and electronics. I hate to break this to anyone, but coal will never again be what it was in 1973. Information technology (IT) is the backbone of our future economy. The boys that used to bale hay and dig ditches in the summer, which lends itself to a sport like football, are now learning to code and program, which doesn’t lend itself. Every generation has its lazy kids, and this generation has it in the exact same proportion as did the Baby Boomers and Generation X. The kids who lay around smoking dope and play Fortnite today are the same kids who laid around smoking dope and playing guitar terribly in 1975. There were probably more of them in 1975, because there were more people in general. Far be it from me, though, to criticize the generations who gave us the pet rock and pension systems that irreparably leach the retirement funds of the younger generations to subsidize themselves. It’s ALL because the kids of today are lazy and worthless. The kids of today will be responsible for repairing the mess left behind by the generations who are criticizing their work ethic. And I, for one, am not going to ride them like Seattle Slew, even if it means that we have fewer kids playing football. Rant over.
  2. 6 points
    GMan

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    The truth is, a lot of kids in SWVA are just plain old lazy. They don't play sports or work. They've learned from those older than them that they can do nothing and the Government will send them a check every month for doing nothing. Lots of folks live that way and don't see anything wrong with it...they don't try to find a job because they don't want a job. It's becoming hereditary.
  3. 6 points
    UVAObserver

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    You completely neglected the Bonanza, one of the proud 21 remaining restaurants in the chain. The meat loaf and rolls alone are reason to party.
  4. 5 points
    UVAObserver

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    This post for some reason reminds me of the adage that if we judge a fish by its ability to walk, the fish will always be a failure. Not every male will have the talent or drive to play sports, and that’s the way it should be.
  5. 4 points
    Liam McPoyle

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    You have a damn Pal's and Tokyo, get over the fact that your football team isn't very good anymore and celebrate the good! Even in the 70s and 80s, they lived it up. When the rest of us were at home eating red dogs with chili sauce, the folks in Lebanon dined on world famous foot longs at their new Weiner King franchise. Clearly there's a lack of appreciation by locals for that gastronomic nirvana that is Lebanon.
  6. 4 points
    Beamerball

    Lee Has a Vacancy

    Are you all on the right page???
  7. 4 points
    cityofRaven

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    This is par for the course for Lebanon. Has anyone else in the state switched classifications and districts as much as Lebanon? They go down to the Hogo for a while, beat up on Holston and Northwood for a while, build up their confidence and then move again, either back to the SWD or the now defunct Clinch Mountain. You have a damn Pal's and Tokyo, get over the fact that your football team isn't very good anymore and celebrate the good!
  8. 3 points
    SXSW

    TSSAA Playoffs

    i just the numbers for Gate City since 1970, using his formula Gate City has 531 points his top 5 has a total of 534! My head would explode trying to do them all for Southwest Virginia! Appy, Powell Valley, Clintwood, Graham would have massive numbers in this equation.
  9. 3 points
    sixcat

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    My wife’s parents cannot relate to my daughter. They see her as lazy, distant and ungrateful. They have taken to calling her “Daria” and wonder why she is so distant with them. At 14, she has been to some pretty prestigious “invitation only” STEM camps. As a 7th grader last year, she wrote the entire code for the Galax high school robotics team. She plays 6 instruments fluently and is featured on the current FloydFest lineup poster. Where her band of misfit teenagers will be performing next weekend. Because someone uses technology as a tool to a better life doesn’t necessarily make them lazy. It often makes the highly intelligent. Much more so than the previous generations that don’t understand them!
  10. 3 points
    Blue 72

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    A lot of truth has been shared on this thread, and I agree with most of what has been said, but one thing has been overlooked. Kids use to want to "Be Like Mike", or whoever their sports hero was, and tried to emulate them on sandlots, outdoor basketball courts, cow pasture football fields, and anywhere a ball could be tossed around. Today, they can set in air conditioning, sip on a soda, push buttons, move toggles, and become whoever they desire to be without sweating one drop. How many kids do you see playing pick up games in the summertime. Instead they are picking up a controller. Sad but true, we're creating a generation of lazy children who don't give a squat about playing sports and a lot of the players we see in high school sports are there because their parents have been there before them. What is missing, or in decline, is a desire to "Be Like Mike" where it counts, putting in the time and effort, pouring out the sweat and using up the stored energy, not flopping on the couch with controller in hand, living in dreamland, believing they are going pro, screaming into headset, and all the while poised in front of a high def Xbox monitor.
  11. 3 points
    rvtne216

    Top players

    Levi Forrest
  12. 2 points
    Bearcat Dad

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    I didn’t really believe your earlier post was exactly directed at me, but since I did mention parks, gyms, and fields, I just wanted to clarify what I meant by what I’ve personally seen with kids over the last two decades, because I do respect your opinion on other topics I’ve seen you post on over the last few years. I agree with your last statement wholeheartedly! I know personally, because as a teenager that was a decent athlete, I was part of the problem in my day. I got away with murder, along with a lot of my teammates, back in our day. My claim to fame as an athlete at VHS, aside from being an average D2 football player, I became Virginia High’s first ever athlete to be banned from a sport/team because of the then new state rule that athletes had to maintain a 2.0 GPA to play sports. My terrible GPA had nothing to do with lack of intelligence, but I preferred playing ball, getting drunk, and chasing skirt to actually doing my homework. When the news broke, I actually went to my teachers in a last ditch attempt to get make-up work, to reach the 2.0. Looking back, the worst part about that experience was that I had teachers that played along! My Algebra 2 teacher let me retake my first semester exam, with the answer key right next to me! I was not able to do enough to reach the 2.0, so I had to sit out baseball season my junior year, in the Spring of 96. That season just so happened to be the last state title that VHS won, before the 2014 team ended the school’s longest title drought since the early 80’s. That experience scarred me for life. I swore that I would do whatever I could to ever keep my kids from going through that themselves. Now, the good Lord did bless both of my kids with a little bit of athletic ability, that did allow them to earn money for college, but they can attest to the fact that their mother and I have preached the importance of “academics first”. The “Good Ole Boy” system is an epidemic that unfortunately, isn’t going anywhere soon. I believe that stems from society’s view of professional athletes. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a sports nut, but way too much importance is placed there.
  13. 2 points
    sixcat

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    I wasn't pointing specifically toward you with my comments. It was intended to be more of a blanket statement supporting my daughter. Her STEM camps thus far have been Wake Forest, Emory University, and Johns Hopkins. If she chooses to attend next summer, it will likely be Stanford. Her disgust with athletics as a whole comes almost exclusively from her experiences within her school system. The issues that lead to her disgust are far more frequent than they should be. Especially at Galax where the rules don't apply to athletes until local law enforcement is forced to get involved. Those same issues have lead to a 20% average yearly turnover rate for school system staff. From where I sit, lack of quality leadership and a "good ole boy" system prevail at Galax! I agree completely with the assertion that many, many factors contribute to kids not playing sports. But my larger point is, it should also be viewed from the opposite direction. How does the negativity that often surrounds athletics affect academics? I would make the argument, much more than we stop to consider!
  14. 2 points
    Ryan4VT

    SWVA PODCAST (question)

    It will 100% continue. Brady is going I to law school in NC this fall, so we are still working out how it will all work with that aspect. But both of us will be back, and we are planning several preseason shows like we did last year going over several topics. 🙂
  15. 2 points
    tornado99

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    Ryan brought up an interesting point about split households as well. I don't know the statistics, but for a variety of reasons, but seems a greater percentage of children come from broken homes. The expenses and logistics in those situations are a couple of additional obstacles. I agree somewhat with all posters on both sides. For me, I believe there is a fine line between balance and specialization with our health as a whole. As for football, since becoming a father, I am aware of the risks, but am also skeptical of many of the studies. I am sure that those are heavily influenced by the outliers of society (i.e. the small percentage of those who competed in the NFL and Division 1), where the duration of their careers as well as the impacts of bigger, faster, stronger men, are more violent. My decision is caution while small, but if they wish to play when I believe they are ready, I will understand and be happy about them playing. It's not for everyone, but the lessons learned are priceless. I have a few aches and pains, but I have been blessed with good health, partly because of the self-discipline learned from football. My experience I honestly believe have taught me how to be a better person. Congratulations, Ryan. I pray everything goes well with your family. You're already thinking like a father.
  16. 2 points
    sixcat

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    Because my daughter isn’t in the park, gym or playing field doesn’t mean she is somehow lazy. Learning to play guitar, fiddle, banjo, mandolin, ukulele and saxophone at a concert level while maintaining an advanced classroom schedule and the extra work required for her to be invited to STEM camps involves as much or more dedication, sacrifice and practice as any sport! I would challenge anyone here to maintain my daughters schedule for a week! After letting her read through the last page, she says this thread is one big reason she despises sports.
  17. 2 points
    Ryan4VT

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    It's too expensive. That has something to do with it, too. I'm the step-parent of a 5 year old who is heading to kindergarten in WashCo next month. He hasn't played any sports yet. Part of that comes from the split household lifestyle he lives. Another part is the expense of playing. I know that from my band career, my family shelled out over $6k for me to have a good instrument, to go on the trips to the Cotton Bowl, NYC/Philly Thanksgiving Parade, Governors Parade, to go to the competitions each week in the fall, the other activities that require money. It's expensive, and this region doesn't have the jobs to support it as much any more. It is what it is, but I think a big problem in SWVA is that we as a region are starting to get to where sports and extracurricular's are breaking the bank for some. My wife and I are also expecting our first (and only) child. It's a boy. And while that thrills me, I'm not sure I'll let him play football. We've seen all too often lately what CTE does to a human. And the price of life is not worth it for a game, IMO.
  18. 2 points
    sixcat

    Top players

    Not Class 1 or 2 but worthy of mention. Carroll County got a pair of transfers named Stephen (SR) and Benji (SO) Gosnell from North Carolina. Stephen is 6'-2" tall, around 215 pounds and has signed to play WR at NC State. He was the number 30 ranked player in North Carolina as a junior last season before transferring. He accounted for more than 2,500 yards last season for East Surry who lost in the state finals to Tarboro. Benji is 6'-3" tall, a shade over 200 pounds and plays DE. Although rumor is, he is going to concentrate on basketball and baseball and drop football. https://www.roanoke.com/sports/high_schools/carroll-county-transfer-commits-to-n-c-state-to-play/article_05647d5d-00d9-5cfa-a63a-49002dbe10c5.html
  19. 2 points
    GHS89

    When was the last time..

    When was the last time a local team with that much D1 talent started the season 0-1?
  20. 2 points
    sixcat

    Jim Adams

    This situation is sad and doesn't affect me in any way but I have two daughters. I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt! Especially when 16 different young ladies are making similar claims against Adams. Galax recently fired 3 administrators for circulating unflattering memes featuring another administrator. The situation in Norton is far more serious. If the Norton school board wanted him out, they have the ammunition to do so. Inappropriate behavior shouldn't be tolerated or excused for the sake of the athletics department or to protect the good ole boys club! Just my opinion!
  21. 1 point
    Plywood_King

    Top players

    ^This. Until recently, with the exception of '00 & '01 and '86 & '87, Marion hasn't been consistently relevant since the mid-70s, and quite frankly for the bulk of the time from around '75 to the late '00s they were flat out bad. So bad that most folks on this board probably don't know Marion as being anything more than a historical tune-up game. Even now, I think the best profile that they could expect would be a "respectable program." But that's not a knock, because if you're in 2A and not named Giles, Graham, Richlands, Union, or Gate City, I think that being a "respectable program" is about as high of an echelon as you can reach.
  22. 1 point
    GloboGymCobras

    Season surprises??

    I think you might be right on those two. But I think Honaker will be surprisingly good in 1D. My previous comments on a predictions post had Honaker, Burton and Patrick Henry as front runners and I’m not sure that to be as true. I think I may have doubted the Chilhowie warriors a bit too much I think they may be able to play with all teams in region. I’d also have some doubt about the Burton Raiders if they don’t have Coach Jim Adams they may be hurting. That’s 20 years of him being the guy possibly gone. From what I understand the interim HC is an internal guy but without Adams they may have a rough year. Wise and gate city may both surprise a few people. I’m not convinced Union will be the team they have been past years. Certainly would be a big win for Gate city and wise to be beat them.
  23. 1 point
    Eersfan

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    I’m beginning to think my childhood was wasted
  24. 1 point
    redtiger

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    Theres actually a card game version of Oregon Trail. It was everything I could do not to buy it lol
  25. 1 point
    Bearcat Dad

    New Helmet thread

    From what I’m hearing, that’s exactly what he’s doing. That’s the style I played with, so of course they’re my favorite.
  26. 1 point
    Eersfan

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    Pitfall was the bomb. What game was about the Oregon trail? I’m sure I would’ve remembered a game where you died from drinking stagnant water.
  27. 1 point
    Grapeape

    New Helmet thread

    So the coaches have to cut out the ear hole & the snaps? No, thanks. They look great, though. I got $5 for Christ if he’d go back to the Michigan style Va High look.
  28. 1 point
    Bearcat Dad

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    I understand completely. Aaron has played all up and down the east coast in travel baseball. It’s no exaggeration that if I added up all the money we’ve spent just with his travel baseball, I could have paid cash for my house. My wife was in the band, and like you, she traveled everywhere including to London to play for the queen. I can remember their tireless efforts in fundraising and that was over 20 years ago. We see the band parents working concession stands at all of the athletic events, among the many other things they’re doing to raise money. I can’t imagine how expensive it is today compared to when I was growing up. I feel bad for being late, but congratulations on the upcoming baby boy, my friend!
  29. 1 point
    GloboGymCobras

    SWVA PODCAST (question)

    Ryan/Brady will the show continue this year? Any thoughts to a preview show breaking down the districts?
  30. 1 point
    Hokie1Pokie

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    Guys, I respect the heck out of all of you, but Good Lord brothers, there's some things that are just not accurate. First, the accurate part IMO is... Numbers have dropped because of multifactoral variables, not one or binomial variables. The relevance of head trauma as it relates to CTE, but also increased chance of neurological illness (ALS) and early onset dementia has played a huge part. Technology and video games as a form of entertainment, social interaction, and even competition and competitiveness allows demonstration right in one's living room. Additionally, population decline is a factor. I agree with all of this. I also believe that the decline is NOT because this generation is lazy. I do believe it is Partially because this generation has a low emotional intelligence (EQ) and likely (keyword is likely) a lower IQ. I will get to that below. Now for the things I Disagree with mentioned by some posters. Past presidents and foreign policy or wars has zero relevance to the subject. That statement stemmed from a political ideology having no relevance. Lastly, the generational thing.... Western IQs have been falling for 2 decades. This is well proven in Scandinavia (highly technical) and Germany and France. There hasn't been a clear cut study proving this yet in the USA because we have become so politically correct (heavily influenced by younger generations) that we will not even study the topic. Literally, a researcher can't get the funding to do a large randomized double blinded study to investigate the issue. It stands to reason, IQs have actually dropped in the US regardless of who is writing computer code at age 8. Emotional intelligence is the huge topic in psychology, behavioral science and equally important, business. EQ is best summed up as social-awarness, self-awareness, and the awareness, empathy, and sympathy of others awareness. EQ may be described as "people skills or people smart." This area is one in which we have dropped substantionally in intelligence (in the form of EQ.) The younger generations have largely engaged socially by technology, computers, etc. Cell phones, social media, and video games all fall in this area. The personal-physical engagement, body language recognition and demonstration is practiced very little compared to older generations. This leads to a rising level of narcissistic and cluster B personality disorders, and much of this fuels the lack of participation in any area or sport that may be considered or actually is risky such as football. What I'm getting at is, every generation has its pros and cons. The ultimate demonstration of intelligence whether it be IQ or EQ is the ability to survive and sustain life. Sperm counts and the Quality of sperm in men has greatly decreased in millennials in ALL Western countries. The low EQ and likely low IQ of millennials would tell you it's because of the environment (possibly it is) without ever considering human behavior and social skills as an influence. This is because the ability to look at oneself, to challenge the ego is something unallowed with narcissism. With millennials, Knowledge and Knowing has greatly increased and this will lead to incredible gains in technology and cures for diseases, but don't confuse knowledge with IQ or EQ. The Ability to know (IQ) and emotion intelligence (EQ) has actually decreased. A kid who is writing computer code at age 8 does not necessarily have a high IQ or is smart. What the kid has is knowledge. For example, it's very likely that kid writing computer code can not do what another 8 year old is doing by having the ability to easily desalinate ocean water to fresh water, or understand why the current windspeed, temperature, time of day, and time of year, and type of insect determines when, where, and what a green cutthroat trout will hit. The latter 8 year may have a higher IQ or vice versa. Mother nature always has and always will maintain balance. Is information technology truly the path of the future? It might be and it might not. Is farming and agriculture the future? For example, with the dependence and interconnectivity on computers and technology on nearly all aspects of life (and it's increasing in dependence) what happens with one massive EMP or even a solar flair that knocks out our grid? Which skillset becomes more important? There's no question millennials are very gifted as a generation and I don't think they are lazy. But, they do have some incredible deficiencies just like all generations of the past. There is no binomial proposition comparing millennials and past generations. But, it's easy to make it a binomial proposition if one wishes to. I wanted to give the other side of the argument. This is my rant, but I just wanted to make sure posters had another viewpoint on the generational thing. Fact is, neither viewpoint is absolutely right or wrong.
  31. 1 point
    Ryan4VT

    New Helmet thread

    That’s the hurricane warning flag. It’s always been a part of their logo in one way or the other.
  32. 1 point
    Ryan4VT

    New Helmet thread

    That’s, uhhhhh, interesting.
  33. 1 point
    UVAObserver

    TSSAA Playoffs

    This would be an interesting exercise. I can think of at least 8 SWVA schools that would almost certainly outpoint Elizabethton in that same time period. Gate City, Giles, Powell Valley, Graham, Appalachia, Richlands, Clintwood, and George Wythe are locks. Pulaski County and Radford would be close.
  34. 1 point
    Blue 72

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    Hey, I agree with what you guys are saying about the intelligent aspect of this generation. I have grandchildren who are far more intelligent than I was at their age and I admire them for it, but on the physical side I see a decline. Don't blame the children for not doing hard labor, and after 47 years in the industry, I do know what the coal industry looks like, but we are talking about the decline in sports, football in particular. The ratio mentioned in this thread about population I do not question, but the work ethic it takes to be in sports, or even high school band, is what I am referring too when I say the students we have now do not have the drive and dedication my generation had. We see it in the educational classes as well, and far be it from me to pass judgement on anyone, but it is what it is, and because of technology that we use daily, (even on this wonderful board), that drive and desire has declined. Call it being lazy, or what ever you want, but I see it in the work force, in the home life, and in the school life of my own grandchildren I love dearly. Using technology as a tool to better life is great, but if you're going to play sports, you have to have the drive and desire to put forth that physical effort and I don't see that coming from a computer screen. I love my grandchildren and depend on them to teach this old man how to use this modern technology that makes things easier, but I still have to put in the work that is needed to stay active and healthy to enjoy this technology.
  35. 1 point
    SXSW

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    The facts of the matter are still the same, not enough kids for whatever reason! If you want to take a look at what is coming to Southwest Virginia, go to Bluefield and drive 52 to Welch, and in 10 or so years it will be the same from Claypool Hill to Grundy on 460 or 58A form Hansonville to Big Stone!
  36. 1 point
    trublue

    TSSAA Playoffs

    Times News Sports‏ @tnsportslive What NE Tennessee school has enjoyed the most football playoff success? Douglas Fritz • Today at 6:24 PM Fifty years ago, the TSSAA held its first football playoffs. Since then, area teams have won their share of postseason football contests. But how do area schools rank against each other? http://www.timesnews.net/Football/2019/07/15/What-school-has-enjoyed-the-most-football-playoff-success.html?ci=stream&lp=1&p=1 great state
  37. 1 point
    redtiger

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    I know several players who are of that mindset, playing on a average/poor team is worse than not playing. They want to be superstars on winning teams, not players. They "like" football but they don't "love" football.
  38. 1 point
    Great City

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    The issue you have is a lot of people from Scott County who work in TN........move to TN so they do not pay a state income tax. Gate City is close to Kingsport/Eastman, but we lose families to TN all the time.
  39. 1 point
    Pioneer pride

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    Lebanon is the same way. Halls are filled with big guys who could play but won't as far as football is concerned.
  40. 1 point
    SXSW

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    I don't want sound like a wet blanket or prophet of Doom, but there is absolutely nothing to keep folks in Southwest Virginia anymore! The textile jobs have long since disappeared, the coal industry has been decimated and the residual effects are now being felt area wide. I have said this many times that you can draw a line from Gate City to Abingdon and anything north of that line is on life support! There will be pockets of areas that can hold out a little longer aka (Richlands, Graham and maybe Union) but they too will see dramatic declines in the future. The closer you are to Tennessee the better off you will be. The concentrated wealth of SW Va. is in Abingdon and Scott County is close to Eastman and those are the exception to the rule. I hate it for the dedicated people who spend their whole lives trying to build something athletically special to watch a kid lose interest or move away but you have to give people a reason to stay and unfortunately now there isn't any reason too!
  41. 1 point
    50kw

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    Where you are missing the point is that all these kids are going DI or straight to the pros out of high school 😂. Same kids cant even dominate A or AA SWVA talent. I will say all the travel teams have taken the hometown pride out of local sports. That is a big part of it. There is no sense of commitment or loyalty to the community. PREACH!
  42. 1 point
    Real Sasquatch

    Top players

    Among the top players. (VA side) I would have to include. Meadows, Lester, Ray, Kastner and Edwards at Graham. Webb from Richlands. Jordan and Harris from Tazewell. Atkins from Ridgeview. Dont know much about any others, but those are some good ones.
  43. 1 point
    GloboGymCobras

    Top players

    Well honestly my 1D I looked at last years all state and they were only players coming back besides Chilhowie kicker. And I agree Graham is LOADED but I think Adkins will be the spotlight player for the region.
  44. 1 point
    sixcat

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    The Twin County area of Galax, Grayson and Carroll has become a retirement community for northerners who spend the winter in Florida and the summer in the mountains. Especially Grayson County! They retire from Michigan, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut or New York, buy cheap land in this area and a condo in The Villages and divide their time between the two. This has become so common here that the median age for this area is well over 10 years above the state median age. Checking the online stats for 2017, the median age in Grayson County is 10 years higher than Norton and about 7 years higher than Wise, Dickenson and Russell. Scott County is the only median age approaching Grayson's.
  45. 1 point
    GMan

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    I heard from someone close to the program that most of the Senior girls on the softball team were pissed when the Semis and Finals got bumped back a week...heard they had beach vacations planned for that week. Seems quite plausible considering how they played in the Semis.
  46. 1 point
    GMan

    Low Numbers in HS Football

    May as well just play 7on7 flag football then...
  47. 1 point
    sixcat

    COACHING IN 2019

    Galax has a new track coach and assistant football coach most will recognize. #WeThePeoples
  48. 1 point
    RichRich

    Chris Kelly Union

    If he is from Central he should probably stay out of football
  49. 1 point
    BigWinners

    Jim Adams

    Guys, if he was saying sexual stuff to high school girls, he deserves to be fired. End of story. This isn't about #MeToo or anything else, it's about protecting young girls from being sexually harassed or objectified by a teacher or someone in authority. It's not appropriate and it's not okay. If he didnt, then he has every right to defend himself. But the number one concern shouldn't be his job or status as a football coach, it should be keeping creeps or worse out of schools and away from young people.
  50. 1 point
    Widespread_Panic

    Jim Adams

    Big sigh of relief that you are not in the education system...
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