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    redtiger got a reaction from Liam McPoyle in Best Coach in SWVA History   
    Colley was a great Xs and Os guy, knew offense and defense inside and out. Imo he comes up short in terms of building a program but was WAY ahead of his time in terms of figuring out how to utilize basketball type kids on the football field. There was a realization that basketball and baseball kids will never commit to a hardcore offseason weight program and Haysi was always competitive in all sports, but they could be game changers if used properly. Its hard to line the Small Forward or 3rd Baseman up at Tight End but they make pretty dang good WRs.
    One of my favorite stories about him is how his offense came to be, basically after a early season, maybe game 1, loss to Honaker where both teams were running the Wishbone Coach set down on a Saturday with a notepad and was trying to figure out how to beat teams that were bigger and stronger. On TV that day was FSU, they were in the gun and throwing the football. He had a eureka moment and thought "we can do that". He draws up a handful of plays and that became the offense. I believe Haysi rolled off 10 consecutive wins before falling in the Regional title game. That was the late 80s, Shotgun "spread" offense wouldnt be a thing in SWVA for another decade and a half(RIchlands and soon after PV) and wouldnt be common for 2 decades. To set aside what YOU WANT TO DO and adapt to what YOUR PLAYERS CAN DO is what separates good coaches from great ones. 
    In the list of great coaches without rings Doug Hubbard is near the top. Honaker was ALWAYS competitive and as a program was as physical as anyone. I think Hubbard had 2 or 3 state title appearances, that doesn't just happen. His great flaw may have been utilization of talent, Heath Miller under center in a Power-I/Wishbone offense??? 
    Jimbo Adams is at the very top of the same list. Burton had a tremendous run of talent in the 2000s but he maximized it by being on the cutting edge of the Double Wing Jet Sweep Offense. No one around here ran Jet before JIB, and he had the guys to do it. His great drawback, total reliance on speed and when they ran into other fast teams they didnt have much success but them man coach multiple teams to the state title game and would have won 1 if it weren't for being robbed by the refs. 
     
    All three would have benefited greatly from a more equitable playoff system. That change would have put both coaches in the overall discussion imo.
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    redtiger reacted to Union_Fan in Best Coach in SWVA History   
    A little known fact about Harry Fry is people from BSG approached him about setting up a youth football league in BSG. He was more that happy to oblige, and in 1970, BSG's "P-Nut" league was created as an emulation of GC's.
    That says a lot about the person Harry Fry was.
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    redtiger reacted to swvafbrespect in Best Coach in SWVA History   
    Great topic. But everyone is talking about state championship coaches. I believe there has been some great coaches in our area that were at smaller schools and didn't have the resources or numbers to win a state championship but doesn't take away from what they put on the field. As an example with not any disrespect intended, Coach Robbins before PV did  not have a great deal of success with W and L. Coach Colobro left and went 0-10 at East. Coach Cummins built a dynasty at Clintwood but could he have done that at Ervinton? I just wonder who through the years were great coaches that are not being mentioned in this diccussion.
    To me James Colley, Don Williams, Jimbo Adams, Kevin Saunders, Roger Rife, John Adams, Steve Wright is a just a few that I can think of off the top of my head that always produced great teams and played hard. Just food for thought.
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    redtiger got a reaction from BigWinners in Best Coach in SWVA History   
    Imo Turners greatest strength was as a motivator, its already been said but he relished that underdog role of Appalachia against the world, and it paid off in big ways. Lets not forget that Appy was absolutely loaded with talent, especially for a school of that size. Idk the admin. numbers but id be willing to bet almost every time they faced a team in the State Semis or Finals they were the smaller school (the games against Bath Co being the only ones that come to mind where Appy was the larger school). Turner always had a good staff around him and for many years that staff remained virtually unchanged with a bunch of diehard Bulldogs, that helps.
    Now Phil is a different story. He was handed a complete program, from Little League up everything was ready made and he did a great job of keeping the program on course and taking them to the next level. I think he comes up short in terms of play calling but truth be told he was smart enough to give the ball to his studs and build a offense around them while also not being predictable. Phil was the leader and deserves a ton of credit but the hard nosed attitude of PV came from Barry Jones. If I was handed the keys to a race car could I drive it? Sure, but there's a great chance id put it in the ditch, Phil never did.  
    Fry and Colobro are near the top, GC was a machine under Colobro. Carlock has to be mentioned, Graham was stout and then some under him. Cummins deserves a nod too, Clintwood had a ton of success under him. I dont think any of those 4 have the rings to take the top 2 spots from Turner or Robbins.
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    redtiger reacted to tornado99 in Week 7 Scores/Updates   
    I despise when I hear someone blaming the refs, even if our own fan bases. I will admit three occurrences when I felt the officiating affected the outcome of the game, although one is debatable. As a Richlands fan, I’m sure most can guess. Again, it could have been a product of my age/lack of maturity.
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    redtiger got a reaction from BandanaVTDavis4321 in Tazewell V Grundy   
    @BandanaVTDavis4321 thats been my opinion of their Offense from occasionally seeing them the past few seasons. Just call whatever and see what works, if nothing is really working then hope a superior athlete makes a play, which some inevitably did. Imo its not a sound offense.
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    redtiger reacted to Hokiebird7 in Richlands   
    Did it hurt when you were getting all these transfers from the "transfer portal"
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    redtiger reacted to Gridiron60 in Week 5 Scores/Updates   
    Well, he is the same superintendent that whined and threatened a lawsuit if the VHSL moved Grayson to 2A. If it comes down to them & Honaker in the playoffs, Honaker will chew them up and spit them out. Then he can post , Marked safe from having to travel to Salem. 
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    redtiger reacted to Hokiebird7 in Is Union going to win state?   
    Agree....what a dumb topic...it's week FIVE 
    Good grief
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    redtiger reacted to UnionGuy2017 in Gate City @ Union   
    Just to follow up on Chandler.. he’s fine. Turners quote from the paper said he could have went back in and he was actually “begging” to go in and play some more. 
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    redtiger reacted to UnionGuy2017 in Gate City @ Union   
    I’d say chandler sat out as a precaution. He was running/jumping pretty good on the sideline and seemed to want to go back in. 
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    redtiger reacted to sixcat in Week 5 Scores/Updates   
    University of Oregon campus police ticketed Deion Sanders in a rental car today. You have to admit, this circus is kinda fun to watch. 
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    redtiger reacted to 1inStripes in Gate City @ Union   
    Especially if Coach Colley is doing color commentary.
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    redtiger got a reaction from BandanaVTDavis4321 in Each Team Gets to Ask a Question (or Two)   
    no "BandanaGrinchDavisVT4321"? 
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    redtiger got a reaction from TValleyDad in Each Team Gets to Ask a Question (or Two)   
    no "BandanaGrinchDavisVT4321"? 
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    redtiger reacted to bucfan64 in ATW - EPISODE 6.4 (MAJOR HEEL TURN) (Be sure to catch the show and the HEEL TURN Video)   
    EPISODE 6.4 (MAJOR HEEL TURN)
    HELP US OUT - HIT THE LIKE BUTTON, SUBSCRIBE AND SHARE OUR VIDEOS
    BELLACINO'S PLAYER OF THE WEEK -GRUNDY HIGH
    WEEKLY RECAP - UPSETS AND MAJOR HEEL TURN
    HOW DID THEY DO IT? How did Union beat Graham?
    TOP 5 - 1A , 2A
    SWVA TOP 5 - Who moved, who is in and who is out?
    STUMP THE CRIG - Flyging magicians and something about solo hand jobs
    PIGSKIIN PROGNOSTICATIONS - Who will win and why?
     
    HEEL TURN VIDEO
     
     
     
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    redtiger got a reaction from Liam McPoyle in Each Team Gets to Ask a Question (or Two)   
    Dodging, doubt that. More like avoiding a date with the ugly but sweet girl in class, "uh, let me see what im doing that Friday night and ill get back to you"
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    redtiger got a reaction from Mountain Football in Each Team Gets to Ask a Question (or Two)   
    The Giles County Mean Green!
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    redtiger got a reaction from chipinbogey in Each Team Gets to Ask a Question (or Two)   
    Dodging, doubt that. More like avoiding a date with the ugly but sweet girl in class, "uh, let me see what im doing that Friday night and ill get back to you"
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    redtiger got a reaction from Union_Fan in Each Team Gets to Ask a Question (or Two)   
    Dodging, doubt that. More like avoiding a date with the ugly but sweet girl in class, "uh, let me see what im doing that Friday night and ill get back to you"
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    redtiger got a reaction from BigWinners in Each Team Gets to Ask a Question (or Two)   
    Dodging, doubt that. More like avoiding a date with the ugly but sweet girl in class, "uh, let me see what im doing that Friday night and ill get back to you"
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    redtiger got a reaction from VFL in Each Team Gets to Ask a Question (or Two)   
    Dodging, doubt that. More like avoiding a date with the ugly but sweet girl in class, "uh, let me see what im doing that Friday night and ill get back to you"
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    redtiger got a reaction from jwgarrett20 in Each Team Gets to Ask a Question (or Two)   
    Dodging, doubt that. More like avoiding a date with the ugly but sweet girl in class, "uh, let me see what im doing that Friday night and ill get back to you"
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    redtiger got a reaction from BandanaVTDavis4321 in Each Team Gets to Ask a Question (or Two)   
    The Giles County Mean Green!
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    redtiger got a reaction from Jags52 in Each Team Gets to Ask a Question (or Two)   
    Dodging, doubt that. More like avoiding a date with the ugly but sweet girl in class, "uh, let me see what im doing that Friday night and ill get back to you"
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