sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 20 hours ago, CPF said: Do whatever you have to do to hire Mark Dixon. I don't think this will ever be a viable option. I don't foresee him ever coming out of retirement. Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 21 hours ago, CPF said: I could fix Richlands in one step. Do whatever you have to do to hire Mark Dixon. It would be a major shock if Dixon ever coaches high school football again. sixcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 2000 73 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, sixcat said: @Tiger 2000just messing with ya man. Nice to see you such a good sense of humor about it. I know you were just messing . No offense taken . Its hard to watch the program spiral downhill so fast. Just trying to set bleed blue straight that Richlands has many problems that will need addressed , and coach lowe isn't one of them. They fired him , so need to focus on fixing instead of blaming .... 13 minutes ago, sixcat said: @Tiger 2000just messing with ya man. Nice to see you such a good sense of humor about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Football 1,532 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 Since this is a "Bold Prediction" thread, I'm gonna say Honaker wins it all in 1A. The Big Red Machine going to 2A and Galax being down will help but the addition of Saban down in Honaker on the coaching staff will have them playing in Salem this December. Gridiron60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,740 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiger 2000 said: Bleed Blue. Ill respond. This isn't Coach Lowe. The reason you wont respond to any of " the rest of it", is because its all true. Ill explain the logic: If I got fired from 2 different positions at the same school, I would probably leave that school, and xfer my children as well. So that's not a big deal. The basketball team kept the core of best players last year, after the firing of coach Lowe. They left this summer. That's not a coach Lowe issue. The football team struggled last year without Coach Lowe. And yes I agree , they would have anyway. However, loosing players to Honaker in no way can help the loosing. I would do whatever it took to keep my best athletes , girls and boys in the program. That's the biggest part of high school coaching. Not Xs and Os. You keep the athletes in your program and then coach them up, correct? So, if Lowe is gone, and your still bashing him for the recent avalanche of players leaving/not participating, it seems as if you may want to find a legitimate reason, look around maybe the reasons are right in front of you. This time next year, who are you gonna blame it on. I'm just saying , the Lowes made a business decision. We should applaud the efforts. And in the long run , if he is on a winning staff and his children excel. Be happy for him. Support the kids who spend there whole summer working on skills and conditioning. I've never seen and example of a kid who spends there whole summer working and then it not turn out good. Some kids go to weight room and field 2/3 times a week and call it work . Nah, that's called the minimum. Focus your attention on that. Blaming someone who hasn't been part of the football team in over a year for the xfers and the upcoming 2 win season wont be a good look. Coach Mance would have all these kids at his school and not leaving. No way he would let a potential all state lineman, WR, and upcoming starting QB leave. It never happened. And if you don't think 3 players make that big of a difference in wins and losses in 2A football, then your a mom or dad of a player on the team and just want lil bobby to be treated fair. As far as Trivette, she would be there as well if coach Lowe was still coaching so obviously the girls had no issues with him. And I agree that she isn't as accomplished as Allen was at this point but very well will be by the end of this season or the next. The point of that was , no school can afford to loose someone of that caliber. Not just a great player, but an unselfish team player, that now we cant drive over to the house of hustle and watch play this winter. Bleed blue started this issue by bashing coach Lowe. and all I'm saying is , he has done the right thing for his kids and family moving forward, and don't be surprised if his decision leads to a lot of wins and losses while another program sinks. There, now its legible Ryan4VT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedblue89 99 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 11:00 AM, Tiger 2000 said: The train wreck, is a school that is loosing player after player . Cant keep the best girls basketball player to ever come through the school from xfering. The best lineman ( Cole ) is at Honaker. Best receiver ( Bandy) is at Honaker. Best crop of 7/8 grade girls and boys have xfered to Honaker. You think you can blame that on Lowe? Parker Lowe will be a 3/4 year varsity starter at 2 sports , and you guys want him gone ? That's the problem . I would say any school would welcome a kid that wants to spend his whole summer going to camps and trainers . The Blues may win 2 games a year for the upcoming future and good luck blaming Lowe. He doesn't coach at Richlands. Football or basketball. If he did . Trivette would still be a Blue. You guys have lost $1,000 dollars a week just in the revenue she brought in for girls / boys basketball games. But as long as you all keep acting like you don't care everytime a good player ducks out on you , this slide will continue. 1 hour ago, Tiger 2000 said: Bleed Blue. Ill respond . This isn't Coach Lowe . The reason you wont respond to any of " the rest of it" , is because its all true. Ill explain the logic. If i got fired from 2 different positions at the same school, I would probably leave that school, and xfer my children as well . So that's not a big deal. The basketball team kept the core of best players last year , after the firing of coach Lowe. They left this summer . That's not a coach Lowe issue . The football team struggled last year without Coach Lowe. And yes I agree , they would have anyway. However , loosing players to Honaker in no way can help the loosing. I would do whatever it took to keep my best athletes , girls and boys in the program . That's the biggest part of high school coaching . Not Xs and Os . You keep the athletes in your program and then coach them up. Correct ? So, if Lowe is gone , and you’re still bashing him for the recent avalanche of players leaving/not participating, it seems as if you may want to find a legitimate reason . Look around, maybe the reasons are right in front of you. This time next year, who are you gonna blame it on. I'm just saying , the Lowes made a business decision . We should applaud the efforts. And in the long run , if he is on a winning staff and his children excel . Be happy for him . Support the kids who spend there whole summer working on skills and conditioning . I've never seen and example of a kid who spends there whole summer working and then it not turn out good. Some kids go to weight room and field 2/3 times a week and call it work . Nah , thats called the minimum . Focus your attention on that. Blaming someone who hasn't been part of the football team in over a year for the xfers and the upcoming 2 win season wont be a good look. Coach Mance would have all these kids at his school and not leaving . No way he would let a potential all state lineman , wr, and upcoming starting qb leave. It never happened. And if you don't think 3 players make that big of a difference in wins and losses in 2A football, then your a momm or dad of a player on the team and just want lil bobby to be treated fair..... and as far as Trivette , she would be there as well if coach Lowe was still coaching so obviously the girls had no issues with him. And I agree that she isn't as accomplished as Allen was at this point but very well will be by the end of this season or the next. The point of that was , no school can afford to loose someone of that caliber. Not just a great player, but an unselfish team player, that now we cant drive over to the house of hustle and watch play this winter. Bleed blue started this issue by bashing coach Lowe. and all I'm saying is , he has done the right thing for his kids and family moving forward , and don't be surprised if his decision leads to a lot of wins and losses while another program sinks. Business decision, 😂😂😂 now that’s funny. Whatever helps you sleep at night Aaron, I mean Tiger. Anyone that can read knows my post wasn’t blaming you, I mean Aaron Lowe, for the downward spiral of the football program, that started when Greg Mance saw the writing on the wall and retired. Those that actually live in Richlands are keenly aware that you, I mean Aaron, kept the shit stirred all year in girls basketball and are currently encouraging kids to transfer. Parker and Tyler are not part of your story, so quit lumping them in with your bullshit. Enjoy yourself and your new assistant job in Honaker, here’s to hoping your “business” decision 😂 pays off in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwvaOG 601 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 Hmm....so what I'm getting out of all of this is that its Mance's fault! Which leads me to wonder what would the state of Richlands football be if Mance was still at Richlands? I can definitively say that if he were still there several kids from other schools would have transferred over there. Tiger 2000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,555 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 4 hours ago, jwgarrett20 said: Sorry, but Trivette is best player that has played at Richlands, regardless if she transferred or not. That's like saying Michael Jordan isn't the greatest Chicago Bull of all time because he finished his career in Washington. Just because she transferred doesn't diminish her ability. No one is diminishing her ability. Hopefully, she will have a great rest of her high school career and end up playing at D1 level. She will most likely become a more accomplished player barring any injury etc. but at this point in her career compared to Allen at the same point, Allen would still be the best. We can agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwgarrett20 28 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said: No one is diminishing her ability. Hopefully, she will have a great rest of her high school career and end up playing at D1 level. She will most likely become a more accomplished player barring any injury etc. but at this point in her career compared to Allen at the same point, Allen would still be the best. We can agree to disagree. I just know that whenever someone transfers, there are usually the people that come out saying things like "she isn't that good anyway" or "the team will be better without her" etc. Not that I'm saying you were implying that, but that's just how it goes in situations like this. I feel like she is a D1 talent no question. She plays like a man, no offense to any females on the board. Honestly, I would rather have her on my team over McAmis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, SwvaOG said: Hmm....so what I'm getting out of all of this is that its Mance's fault! Which leads me to wonder what would the state of Richlands football be if Mance was still at Richlands? I can definitively say that if he were still there several kids from other schools would have transferred over there. On their own or did he recruit? Haha Gridiron60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPF 409 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 2 hours ago, UVAObserver said: It would be a major shock if Dixon ever coaches high school football again. Well......I guess Richlands is screwed then. I hate that. Gridiron60 and Deleted Account 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,555 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, jwgarrett20 said: I just know that whenever someone transfers, there are usually the people that come out saying things like "she isn't that good anyway" or "the team will be better without her" etc. Not that I'm saying you were implying that, but that's just how it goes in situations like this. I feel like she is a D1 talent no question. She plays like a man, no offense to any females on the board. Honestly, I would rather have her on my team over McAmis. I think any team would love to have that caliber talent coming in and it’s a big loss to the Blues but honestly there was talk of her transferring prior to the Lowe debacle. I think that’s always been on the radar as to whether she’d stay at Richlands with or without Lowe. Student athletes need to go where they & their parents feel it’s of most benefit to them, the Lowe family included. I would agree on Trivette over McAmis if I had to choose between the two. Both are stellar players though in comparison to most of the talent in SWVA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,554 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 Football is a cycle. Every great dynasty hits hard times. Talent leaves. Families leave. Kids stop playing. One day it will turn around. But that day is not today nor likely any day soon. Still can’t wait to show up and cheer on the boys who are out there every week. CPF, Tiger 2000, Gridiron60 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Sasquatch 1,865 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 I will make a bold prediction that this thread will get back to making bold predictions. Graham32, Gridiron60 and Mountain Football 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Real Sasquatch said: I will make a bold prediction that this thread will get back to making bold predictions. With that said, I predict Greg Mance will be the new Head Coach at Giles COUNTY High in 3 years, IF they would just close all the golf courses along the Grand Strand Graham32 and Gridiron60 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,555 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 8 hours ago, bleedblue89 said: Anyone that can read knows my post wasn’t blaming you, I mean Aaron Lowe, for the downward spiral of the football program, that started when Greg Mance saw the writing on the wall and retired. I think the downward spiral started with the departure of Snake. Sure they were fine for a couple years after he was let go by Mance. His influence was still there as well as lots of talent. After that it sort of gradually went downhill more dramatically which was cemented when Mance left. I’m like you, I think he saw the writing on the wall. Thad Wells put a huge dent in the program. I agree with SwvaOG that Tarter is trying to right the ship but that will take time. Hopefully, him & his staff figure it out and can use players where they’ll be most successful and start building the program back up. Tarter is in a tough position. I don’t begrudge Lowe or his family for making the move to Honaker. Snake’s move to Graham worked out alright for him maybe it will work out for the Lowes being Tigers now and Richlands won’t have to worry about him causing drama anymore. My bold prediction getting back to the thread as requested by Real Sasquatch 😂: Tom Rife gets zero jail time maybe community service or charges dropped completely for trying to shut up that ignoramus buddy of Lowe who deserved an outright butt whoopin’ . BandanaVTDavis4321 and Real Sasquatch 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said: Tom Rife gets zero jail time maybe community service or charges dropped completely for trying to shut up that ignoramus buddy of Lowe who deserved an outright butt whoopin’ . Bamm! Gridiron60, olewave, Real Sasquatch and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,555 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 Is 2023 Bluefield’s year? https://coalfields.org/bluefield-2023/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 18 hours ago, SwvaOG said: Hmm....so what I'm getting out of all of this is that its Mance's fault! Which leads me to wonder what would the state of Richlands football be if Mance was still at Richlands? I can definitively say that if he were still there several kids from other schools would have transferred over there. The youth football system was in full-fledged collapse in Mance’s final years here. We’re seeing the effects of that now. While not perfect, you can look at youth leagues and extrapolate pretty well what these teams will look like in 7-10 years. Even now, some places have positioned themselves well, while others should have alarm bells sounding. Mountain Football and sixcat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedblue89 99 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 19 hours ago, SwvaOG said: Hmm....so what I'm getting out of all of this is that its Mance's fault! Which leads me to wonder what would the state of Richlands football be if Mance was still at Richlands? I can definitively say that if he were still there several kids from other schools would have transferred over there. Nope, didn’t say it was his fault, just said he saw it coming. The football program has had a steady decline since he left. Jeff Tarter is doing the best with what he has, not throwing off on the kids that are currently working hard, but the talent level is just not there. Same can be said for the other sports programs in Richlands. Maybe there is a problem with youth sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Football 1,532 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, UVAObserver said: The youth football system was in full-fledged collapse in Mance’s final years here. We’re seeing the effects of that now. While not perfect, you can look at youth leagues and extrapolate pretty well what these teams will look like in 7-10 years. Even now, some places have positioned themselves well, while others should have alarm bells sounding. Danny Mullins expanded Tazewell Youth Football League(TYFL) several years ago to include Montcalm, Graham, Mt. View, Tazewell, and possibly Peterstown. I may be wrong on Peterstown. As far as youth leagues are concerned this one was ran about as good as one can expect. All of them are going to have hiccups but when you look at the performance of these same teams 7 years later.........it speaks for itself. Tazewell went from not making playoffs to contending. Montcalm(I know it's Montcalm) but they have done well with the kids that went through that youth league. Mt. View is and probably always will be a dumpster fire regardless. Graham's results speak for themselves. Obviously the MS and HS programs have to be a well oiled machine but that league that Danny put together produced some good teams. I probably shouldn't give him all the credit lol. He obviously had some help with it all. SpillBoss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGray 60 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 9 hours ago, Gridiron60 said: Is 2023 Bluefield’s year? https://coalfields.org/bluefield-2023/ Nah. 5-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westisthebest 88 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 11:00 AM, Tiger 2000 said: Best crop of 7/8 grade girls and boys have xfered to Honaker. What? No they haven't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,555 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 hours ago, UVAObserver said: The youth football system was in full-fledged collapse in Mance’s final years here. We’re seeing the effects of that now. While not perfect, you can look at youth leagues and extrapolate pretty well what these teams will look like in 7-10 years. Even now, some places have positioned themselves well, while others should have alarm bells sounding. The youth program in Richlands had been floundering and I think Mance realized that too. I think that’s part of the problem in Bland County. They need to start back at ground level youth football or maybe middle school and build football up to have a chance at a high school team in the future. They’re still on schedule to play some games but last I heard from a buddy of mine who teaches at the HS they had a dozen boys. That was a couple weeks ago so maybe they’ll had some more join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Mountain Football said: Danny Mullins expanded Tazewell Youth Football League(TYFL) several years ago to include Montcalm, Graham, Mt. View, Tazewell, and possibly Peterstown. I may be wrong on Peterstown. As far as youth leagues are concerned this one was ran about as good as one can expect. All of them are going to have hiccups but when you look at the performance of these same teams 7 years later.........it speaks for itself. Tazewell went from not making playoffs to contending. Montcalm(I know it's Montcalm) but they have done well with the kids that went through that youth league. Mt. View is and probably always will be a dumpster fire regardless. Graham's results speak for themselves. Obviously the MS and HS programs have to be a well oiled machine but that league that Danny put together produced some good teams. I probably shouldn't give him all the credit lol. He obviously had some help with it all. You’re correct on Peterstown. And you’re correct on the effort required to get the youth leagues in order so that the middle/high school teams have good, experienced players to coach onward. I think the world of Danny, and his work (and the work of others) is certainly is showing dividends in the County seat. Mountain Football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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