Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Since I don't have access to the raw data and it appears you do... Assuming all top contenders win out otherwise... If Appomattox loses to Amherst, and Richlands loses to Abingdon, where does that leave Graham? And also, if Appomattox loses to Amherst but Richlands beats Abingdon, where would that leave Graham? Obviously, there's a lot of football left to be played, and you never truly know how a game is going to go until they meet on the field, but this is why I'm pretty confident that Graham will be the #1 seed in a battle of 9-1 teams. That's a 10 point difference, and a lot of games would have to go unexpectedly for Dan River to make up that difference. Graham 9-1 279 27.9 Dan River 9-1 269 26.9 Richlands 9-1 269 26.9 Appo 9-1 267 26.7 Union 9-1 263 26.3 I think Graham would still be a solid #2 seed if there is a 10-0 Richlands. Richlands 10-0 288 28.8 Graham 9-1 278 27.8 Dan River 9-1 269 26.9 Appo 9-1 267 26.7 Union 9-1 264 26.4 I'll update this each week as the season goes along to reflect the guesses that I miss. starcityfootballfan, Deleted Account, Mountain Football and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWVAgridiron 1,469 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Somehow I have appo as 2nd if they lose 1 and Richlands wins out. I'll have to recheck it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,554 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 In your first scenario, Dan River and Richlands are tied, how do they decide tiebreaker when there's no common opponents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 In your first scenario, Dan River and Richlands are tied, how do they decide tiebreaker when there's no common opponents? And that will most likely change. Will only take one game to go one way or another for either team. However, here is the list of tie breakers... (a) The Rating Scale-Considering all regular season games played against public and non-public Virginia schools and scheduled in accordance with the provisions of 68-4-6. (b) The winner of any games between the two tied teams if only the tied teams are involved. If more than two teams tied, and one of the tied teams beat all other tied teams, that team shall advance. © The team with the better record against all common opponents. (d) A team that played an opponent with an effective nine (9) game schedule (non-recognized opponent, i.e., home school or out-of-state non-public school, or inability to schedule/play a 10th game) shall be seeded ahead of a school whose opponents play 10 game schedules. (e) Schools that played an opponent with nine-game schedules shall be seeded ahead of opponents who played 10-game schedules. VIRGINIA HIGH SCHOOL LEAGUE HANDBOOK -141- ATHLETIC ACTIVITIES (f) The team with the highest winning percentage against rating scalerecognized opponents. (g) The team with the higher average rating of all of each team's opponents. (h) The team with the higher average rating of all of each team's VHSL public and VHSL non-public school opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
face-n-dacrowd 23 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Still a lot to be decided on Monday as a LOT of teams can still earn bonus points in 1A and 2A West plus other teams still play Monday night... Here is the top 5 as I have it at the moment though... 1A West: 1. Hurley 22.33333 2. Galax 20.66667 3. Patrick Henry 20.33333 4. George Wythe 19.5 5. Chilhowie 19.33333 2A West: 1. Appomattox 26 2. Richlands 24 3. Union 22.83333 4. Dan River 22.28571 5. Graham 21.83333 Dont understand how my Rebels move from #2 last week to #3 this week after a win on Friday? Looks like a system that doesn't make sense. But lot of football to be played. Think if we go 10-0 we may be #1 seed? Just asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebel1 35 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Dont understand how my Rebels move from #2 last week to #3 this week after a win on Friday? Looks like a system that doesn't make sense. But lot of football to be played. Think if we go 10-0 we may be #1 seed? Just asking Hurley beat a previously undefeated Grundy and Galax lost to Fort. Therefore, Hurley leapfrogged to #1. Its not what PH didn't do its what Hurley did. starcityfootballfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup_rbeast 296 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Dont understand how my Rebels move from #2 last week to #3 this week after a win on Friday? Looks like a system that doesn't make sense. But lot of football to be played. Think if we go 10-0 we may be #1 seed? Just asking It all comes down to the wins and losses of the teams you play. You can go 10-0 and if you have not beat a couple of good teams, your seeding suffers. Likewise, you can go 7-3 with a tough schedule and get a fairly good seed. So, it all works it self out in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLINE77 50 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Hurley played a team that was 5-0 and 2A and won PH played a team that was winless and 1A. Hurley got more points because of the wins and the higher classification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,518 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 I would assume if PH goes 10-0 they will definitely have the #1 seed due to having a better SOS over Hurley going forward. The trouble with that is you have to beat George Wythe which would be a stretch. Would like to see it though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebel1 35 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Grundy getting through the rest of their schedule with only one more loss would be huge for Hurley. That's really the only team we have to hang our hats on for points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXSW 557 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 All the arguing and speculation right now is useless, win your games, control what you can. The VHSL will tell you if you get in the playoffs or not and when your have to play and more importantly who! Way to much time gets wasted on this every year, just play and let the geeks figure out the numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebel1 35 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 I agree with the whole do your job, focus on what you can control stuff. But, I also enjoy the speculation, the what ifs this time of year. starcityfootballfan, Mountain Football and Union_Fan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Football 1,532 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 All the arguing and speculation right now is useless, win your games, control what you can. The VHSL will tell you if you get in the playoffs or not and when your have to play and more importantly who! Way to much time gets wasted on this every year, just play and let the geeks figure out the numbers. I'm pretty sure that all the high school teams in the state have a clear understanding they have to finish out their schedule. Thanks to all the individuals who take the time and crunch the numbers for the rest of us......INCLUDING the scenarios. starcityfootballfan, Deleted Account and Union_Fan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swva_havok_fan 1,261 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 All the arguing and speculation right now is useless, win your games, control what you can. The VHSL will tell you if you get in the playoffs or not and when your have to play and more importantly who! Way to much time gets wasted on this every year, just play and let the geeks figure out the numbers. I think people care more than you think... I had a coach DM me on Twitter this morning wondering where his team was in the power points. Union_Fan, starcityfootballfan, Ryan4VT and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 ...let the geeks figure out the numbers. I resent that! :) BlueRazor, Mountain Football and Deleted Account 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC_Quincy 582 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 I love the fact that these things are figured out and posted. It's very informative IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestjohn 90 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 rebel1, if Shelby Valley keeps winning, I think Hurley can get some points from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSocko 136 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 rebel1, if Shelby Valley keeps winning, I think Hurley can get some points from them. Everyone has forget Castlewood. They are 5-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swva_havok_fan 1,261 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Everyone has forget Castlewood. They are 5-2. I would think they can get two out of the final three and possibly all three. 7-3 might just get Castlewood a home game first round. 8-2 definitely would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRISH-FAN18 323 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 I would think they can get two out of the final three and possibly all three. 7-3 might just get Castlewood a home game first round. 8-2 definitely would. Castlewood will beat Eastside. They have what it takes to beat Burton and Lebanon too if they play to their full potential and don't choke. That would really do Hurley a favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swva_havok_fan 1,261 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 I went ahead and tallied the points in the wee hours this morning, since the Cubs were keeping me awake. I may be some off, as I was going on adrenaline hoping for the Cubs sweep. Lol 1A West: 1. Hurley 22.33333 2. Galax 21 3. Patrick Henry 20.33333 4. George Wythe 19.83333 5. Chilhowie 19.42857 6. Parry McCluer 18.33333 7. (tie) Fort Chiswell and Narrows 17.83333 9. Castlewood 16.28571 10. J. I. Burton 15.42857 11. Radford 15 12. Covington 14.85714 13. Bland County 14.16667 14. Rural Retreat 13.57143 15. Twin Valley 13.33333 16. Auburn 12.83333 17. Thomas Walker 12.16667 18. Twin Springs 11.83333 19. (tie) Honaker and Eastside 11.42857 21. Northwood 10.57143 22. Bath County 10 23. Eastern Montgomery 8.83333 24. Holston 8.5 25. Rye Cove 7.66667 26. Craig County 7.28571 2A West: 1. Appomattox 26 2. Richlands 24 3. Union 22.83333 4. Dan River 22.57143 5. Graham 21.83333 6. Grundy 20.85714 7. Lee High 20.16667 8. Martinsville 20 9. Glenvar 18.83333 10. Marion 18.16667 11. Floyd County 17.83333 12. Giles 17.33333 13. John Battle 15.83333 14. Wise Central 15.28571 15. Virginia High 15.16667 16. (tie) Gate City and Gretna 13.85714 18. Tazewell 13.71429 19. James River 13.14286 20. Lebanon 12.5 21. Ridgeview 12.16667 22. Grayson County 11.83333 23. Buckingham County 11.71429 24. Chatham 11.66667 I am still counting Grundy's points with the Riverview scenario included. Not sure why the VHSL hasn't picked up this yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V-Cats 472 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 So as it stands, we could be looking at a potential Richlands/Union rematch in the State Quarters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Get Giles out of that #12 slot, LOL. Man...There are going to be some fantastic 3rd round games. SWVAgridiron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol Hater 276 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Union at Richlands possible 3rd round matchup can the playoffs start today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 We are still in the middle of the regular season, right? Gunz9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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