Duke2015 451 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, RedPrideNation said: As an outside observer that was an interesting game. Both teams played their tails off and it sucked someone had to lose. Only critique I would have was of the clock management by Union in the second half. Gotta have those timeouts late when you in a dogfight. We burn our timeouts like that every week. They’ll bring the play in from the sideline with 12 seconds on the play clock and still have to go to the huddle line up and snap the ball it’s been like that for years BigWinners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPrideNation 82 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 I like using all the play clock but damn I would catch a heart attack stressing over that every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, RedPrideNation said: As an outside observer that was an interesting game. Both teams played their tails off and it sucked someone had to lose. Only critique I would have was of the clock management by Union in the second half. Gotta have those timeouts late when you in a dogfight. Been that way since 2011 when the school formed. We've called TO's after just calling a TO, or after the other team just called a timeout, after change of possession, KOs, punts and end of quarters. We need a time management seminar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf1207 239 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 The NFHS needs to authorize the ear pieces like they have in the NFL. I wouldn’t think they’d be that expensive. That’d cut down on a lot of those types of issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 Officiating in this game since talked about. 1. It's NEVER "the entire crew." Its usually only 1, maybe, maybe 2. 2. Graham can't cheat Union, and Union can't cheat Graham. The people of Big Stone Gap didn't gather as a town with the student body and players and coaches and set down with the officials and decide, "we will cheat Graham.' The Union coaches, players, fans have nothing to do with a call on the field regarding "planning." What can happen? You can have one bad apple with bad intent. I stick to that opinion tonight. The back judge, one guy, not "the crew," not "Union," not " Turner," but 1 guy with bad intent. I stand by the post. He tried to influence the games outcome, period. I have my opinion and I'm sticking to it. I didn't write any plural...no officials, not Union, but singular.....the back judge. I rewinded NFHS. Huff got there early in the endzone on the no call pass interference. The Union announcers felt that was the case. At the opposite end, the pass interference call by the same official on Graham that gave Union the extra chance. It was nothing close to pass interference and the Union announcers kind of felt the same. These 2 calls are game changing. Sure, we can pick out the hold or facemask or this or that, but it's about the timing of a flag and where it's thrown and by whom and does it effect or can it greatly effect the outcome? Those 2 calls were huge and they were blatent in my opinion. Overall, the rest of the officials did a good job. It wasn't a horse collar on Clements. The call was correct. The holding call on Graham at the one late in the first half was 50-50, but kind of legit. It happened on the opposite side of the play, didn't effect the play, but the Graham player literally tackled the kid. That's a hold. Just my opinions, and the back judge in this game gets an F. The rest of the crew gets a B. There is no such thing as Team A cheating team B. There is also no such thing as the "Officials cheating," as in....the entire crew. That's rare. But, if you think bad apples don't exist, then better check again. As human beings, we have people in every field or profession that largely have good intentions, but we have a few (very few) bad apples in every profession, field, or past time from Doctors to Lawyers to Judges to Plumbers to Nurses to electricians to preachers to husbands and wives that cheat on one another, and all of a sudden, we think that somehow every official in the world undergoes complete moral clarity and 100% morality for the 48 minutes he takes the field to call a game? Naive....brothers....naive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan88 117 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, RedPrideNation said: I like using all the play clock but damn I would catch a heart attack stressing over that every game. I knew that would come back to haunt Union Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimal62 178 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Ryan4VT said: Honaker 28 Rye Cove 18 Galax @ Honaker at 2pm next Saturday for the chance to play in Who is the better team of the two in your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgibb 207 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 Graham and Union have played 12 times. Graham has won 6, Union has won 6. Grahams record at Bullitt Park is 4-2. Unions record at Mitchell is 4-2. You can’t draw up a better rivalry. VT W1N, JDHoss, Gridiron60 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,554 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 30 minutes ago, Optimal62 said: Who is the better team of the two in your opinion? I think Honaker has been consistently better — but it’s hard to ignore what Galax has done the last half of the season and into the playoffs. They’re hot at the perfect time. Gonna be one helluva football game. Optimal62 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsi97 35 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 19 hours ago, cityofRaven said: They'll find a way to blow it. Not like Richlands has done in the last few years. cityofRaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro 30 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 hour ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said: Officiating in this game since talked about. 1. It's NEVER "the entire crew." Its usually only 1, maybe, maybe 2. 2. Graham can't cheat Union, and Union can't cheat Graham. The people of Big Stone Gap didn't gather as a town with the student body and players and coaches and set down with the officials and decide, "we will cheat Graham.' The Union coaches, players, fans have nothing to do with a call on the field regarding "planning." What can happen? You can have one bad apple with bad intent. I stick to that opinion tonight. The back judge, one guy, not "the crew," not "Union," not " Turner," but 1 guy with bad intent. I stand by the post. He tried to influence the games outcome, period. I have my opinion and I'm sticking to it. I didn't write any plural...no officials, not Union, but singular.....the back judge. I rewinded NFHS. Huff got there early in the endzone on the no call pass interference. The Union announcers felt that was the case. At the opposite end, the pass interference call by the same official on Graham that gave Union the extra chance. It was nothing close to pass interference and the Union announcers kind of felt the same. These 2 calls are game changing. Sure, we can pick out the hold or facemask or this or that, but it's about the timing of a flag and where it's thrown and by whom and does it effect or can it greatly effect the outcome? Those 2 calls were huge and they were blatent in my opinion. Overall, the rest of the officials did a good job. It wasn't a horse collar on Clements. The call was correct. The holding call on Graham at the one late in the first half was 50-50, but kind of legit. It happened on the opposite side of the play, didn't effect the play, but the Graham player literally tackled the kid. That's a hold. Just my opinions, and the back judge in this game gets an F. The rest of the crew gets a B. There is no such thing as Team A cheating team B. There is also no such thing as the "Officials cheating," as in....the entire crew. That's rare. But, if you think bad apples don't exist, then better check again. As human beings, we have people in every field or profession that largely have good intentions, but we have a few (very few) bad apples in every profession, field, or past time from Doctors to Lawyers to Judges to Plumbers to Nurses to electricians to preachers to husbands and wives that cheat on one another, and all of a sudden, we think that somehow every official in the world undergoes complete moral clarity and 100% morality for the 48 minutes he takes the field to call a game? Naive....brothers....naive. The timing of the calls but mostly the lateness of the flags really bothered me. When the play is over and players are starting back to the huddle then a flag from the opposite side of the field, and the ref 10 yds away doesn't then fans have a problem. i believe the fans and the game got to these ref's scared to and not to throw flag. Definitely seemed one sided. but that's how it goes sometimes. Not enough can be said about Clements ..Elite players make elite plays Union had not seen him healthy until today Great season Union. wish we didnt have to play you guys so early in Playoffs, Would have been a fantastic Finals game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam McPoyle 1,863 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 VHSL REGIONAL FINALS 1A Northumberland 26 Essex 54 1B Altavista 22 Sussex Central 16 1C George Wythe 14 Galax 17 1D Rye Cove 18 Honaker 28 2A Amelia County 18 Poquoson 57 2B Riverheads 41 Central Woodstock14 2C Glenvar 24 Radford 29 2D Graham 33 Union 24 3A Lafayette 49 Heritage-Newport News 0 3B Brentsville District 30 Armstrong/Kennedy 28 3C Turner Ashby 14 Liberty Christian 63 3D William Byrd 31 Magna Vista 7 4A Warhill 13 Phoebus 41 4B Varina 14 King George 24 4C John Champe 21 Tuscarora 24 4D EC Glass 14 Salem 42 5A Indian River 10 Green Run 7 5B Warwick 20 Maury 48 5C Matoaca 42 William Fleming 3 5D Briar Woods 6 Stone Bridge 29 6A Manchester 6 Highland Springs 17 6B Battlefield 7 Freedom Woodbridge 50 6C Lake Braddock 39 Fairfax 20 6D Westfield 7 James Madison-Vienna 31 RichRich and BandanaVTDavis4321 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westisthebest 88 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 LCA being in 3a is jus ridiculous. None of those teams stand a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan88 117 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Westisthebest said: LCA being in 3a is jus ridiculous. None of those teams stand a chance What class should they be in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan88 117 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Hokiebird7 said: I'll start it early. I hope the refs don't cheat anyone next week Funny how when your team wins the ref chatter stops hmmmmmm You are exactly right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westisthebest 88 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Just now, BearsFan88 said: What class should they be in? None of them. Should be where they belong. Or if they wanna play with the public schools then put them in 6a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam McPoyle 1,863 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 If only there was an association of private schools in Virginia for LCA to belong. Oh wait, there actually is... https://visaa.org/schools Ryan4VT and Bearcat Bob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPF 409 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 6 hours ago, BearsFan88 said: A lot of it is judgment. They’ve missed some on us. Missed some on Graham. What I find funny is how Graham people go whining about horns and then bring their own and blow it when Union is lined up to snap. But I am not complaining. Union did it first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan88 117 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, CPF said: Union did it first. UnIoN dId It FiRsT EH31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev833 5 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Optimal62 said: Who is the better team of the two in your opinion? Galax only has 1 single a loss to Grayson County, which was in the regular season. They beat Grayson County in the second round of the playoffs. The other 3 losses come to Region 2C champ Radford, 2C runner up Glenvar, and 2D champ Graham. They should be taken seriously. Gridiron60 and Optimal62 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Rev833 said: Galax only has 1 single a loss to Grayson County, which was in the regular season. They beat Grayson County in the second round of the playoffs. The other 3 losses come to Region 2C champ Radford, 2C runner up Glenvar, and 2D champ Graham. They should be taken seriously. It's down to a 3 point predicted win by Calpreps after today. Honaker 31, Galax 28. That score tightened quick. Other scores predicted, Essex 24, Galax 22. Honaker 33, Essex 31. Essex 31, Altavista 24. Rev833 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol Hater 276 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 33 minutes ago, CPF said: Union did it first. I find all the noise makes these big games even better. The horns really played a part in the 1st half when it seemed like Graham had 20 penalties in a row called on them. The louder the better. CPF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan88 117 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 I mean to be honest I don’t really care about horns and such. I just thought it was funny with people historically whining about Union’s. I say blow your horn. Have at it. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield researcher 1,195 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 10 hours ago, Westisthebest said: LCA being in 3a is jus ridiculous. None of those teams stand a chance Maybe it is already time to move Riverheads up to 3A and let them play Liberty?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat Bob 491 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Bluefield researcher said: Maybe it is already time to move Riverheads up to 3A and let them play Liberty?? If it was based on participation, they would probably be 3A-4a. Seems that every male from 9-12 grades suit up for them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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