Blacksburg already forfeits to Salem for next week

[Liam McPoyle 1,823]

"The Virginia High School League deemed Grundy’s home field unsuitable to host a state semifinal game due to muddy field conditions and concerns about the proper amount of seating. " BHC  

 

VHSL: Please see example below of suitable field conditions for a state-semi final.

 

 

 

[sixcat 2,798]

8 hours ago, Liam McPoyle said:

"The Virginia High School League deemed Grundy’s home field unsuitable to host a state semifinal game due to muddy field conditions and concerns about the proper amount of seating. " BHC

 

VHSL: Please see example below for the proper amount of visitor seating for a state-semi final.

 

Hey, but Galax has that sexy plastic grass!!!

[BandanaVTDavis4321 1,644]

8 hours ago, Liam McPoyle said:

"The Virginia High School League deemed Grundy’s home field unsuitable to host a state semifinal game due to muddy field conditions and concerns about the proper amount of seating. " BHC

 

VHSL: Please see example below for the proper amount of visitor seating for a state-semi final.

 

Galax's visiting side was a father and son backyard project. This project was completed after the tree house and root cellar.

[cityofRaven 2,329]

A few contextual things here that may be absent.

The picture above is from a Division 2 game in 1993. The seating specifications for D2 and D4, the division Grundy and Salem we're in, we're a little more, plus Grundy only had seating on one side.

Also, the matchup between Grundy/Salem came a few years after the infamous game in Richlands so I'm sure Salem were going to make a fuss about anything down this way given the chance.

[chipinbogey 149]

1 hour ago, cityofRaven said:

A few contextual things here that may be absent.

The picture above is from a Division 2 game in 1993. The seating specifications for D2 and D4, the division Grundy and Salem we're in, we're a little more, plus Grundy only had seating on one side.

Also, the matchup between Grundy/Salem came a few years after the infamous game in Richlands so I'm sure Salem were going to make a fuss about anything down this way given the chance.

IIRC, Richlands was proposed but, I think the bleachers at Ernie Hicks on the visitor's side were not considered up to par either. I don't think you could have found a field that wasn't muddy that week. I still wonder what truly went down on the landlines between Grundy, Salem, and Charlottesville in the week leading up to that and I am positive it would be great fodder for these conversations. 

Ironically enough, since the bleachers were installed on the visitor's side at Grundy, they have not hosted a state semifinal game while appearing in two on the road.

[redtiger 1,726]

15 hours ago, Liam McPoyle said:

"The Virginia High School League deemed Grundy’s home field unsuitable to host a state semifinal game due to muddy field conditions and concerns about the proper amount of seating. " BHC  

 

VHSL: Please see example below of suitable field conditions for a state-semi final.

 

 

 

An important note here is Haysi was a balanced offense,  the conditions probably benefited Giles more but Coach Colley wasn't about to move the game.

[Hokiebird7 1,395]

37 minutes ago, redtiger said:

An important note here is Haysi was a balanced offense,  the conditions probably benefited Giles more but Coach Colley wasn't about to move the game.

Giles was damn good that year too....defense was incredible 

[Wolf1207 234]

1 hour ago, Hokiebird7 said:

Giles was damn good that year too....defense was incredible 

That was probably Haysi’s best team of the Colley run.  They were really good in the early 90’s, but Giles got in the way a couple of times.

[BandanaVTDavis4321 1,644]

17 hours ago, Liam McPoyle said:

"The Virginia High School League deemed Grundy’s home field unsuitable to host a state semifinal game due to muddy field conditions and concerns about the proper amount of seating. " BHC  

 

VHSL: Please see example below of suitable field conditions for a state-semi final.

 

 

 

I'm in that photo.

[SWVAgridiron 1,443]

58 minutes ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said:

I'm in that photo.

I can see you. You’re the one wearing the poncho

[VT W1N 24]

Roanoke Times picked up the story about Blacksburg forfeiting their Salem game. Since it's a subscription article, I'll just copy the paragraph that gives the official reason. Here it is below:

In an email sent to community members, Blacksburg Principal Chris Stewart cited a high number of injuries that have left a limited number of remaining active players, and that the forfeiture comes out of caution for those athletes.

 

[Unchained 570]

21 minutes ago, VT W1N said:

Roanoke Times picked up the story about Blacksburg forfeiting their Salem game. Since it's a subscription article, I'll just copy the paragraph that gives the official reason. Here it is below:

In an email sent to community members, Blacksburg Principal Chris Stewart cited a high number of injuries that have left a limited number of remaining active players, and that the forfeiture comes out of caution for those athletes.

 

Completely acceptable if this is indeed the case. Kid's health should always come first.

[BandanaVTDavis4321 1,644]

3 hours ago, SWVAgridiron said:

I can see you. You’re the one wearing the poncho

Funny guy

[Ryan4VT 4,502]

20 hours ago, Unchained said:

Completely acceptable if this is indeed the case. Kid's health should always come first.

Agreed. Kids health should always be the priority — even if certain people on here seem to think otherwise. 

[cityofRaven 2,329]

[Bluefield researcher 1,185]

John Marshall has "forfeited" to Riverheads and "Westmoreland has "forfeited" to Essex.

[TwhscoachT 161]

The same people fussing about the Forfeits? Are they the same people asking for 6 playoff teams instead of 8?? Isnt that what you wanted?

[cityofRaven 2,329]

4 minutes ago, TwhscoachT said:

The same people fussing about the Forfeits? Are they the same people asking for 6 playoff teams instead of 8?? Isnt that what you wanted?

[Gridiron60 2,497]

6 minutes ago, TwhscoachT said:

The same people fussing about the Forfeits? Are they the same people asking for 6 playoff teams instead of 8?? Isnt that what you wanted?

I’m not seeing the correlation of a forfeit during regular season and playoff format. 🤔

[Hokiebird7 1,395]

38 minutes ago, TwhscoachT said:

The same people fussing about the Forfeits? Are they the same people asking for 6 playoff teams instead of 8?? Isnt that what you wanted?

Yep because a possible 2-8 giles team don't deserve a playoff bid....or do they in your mind?

[BandanaVTDavis4321 1,644]

I prefer 6 playoff teams and less forfeits with some sort of system that equally focuses on the team that was forfeited on/rewards them. I don't think my logic is off here and don't think it's unreasonable to do both at the same.

As for Ryan's statement about the health of the kids first. Very valid, but what's NOT valid is the assumption that fans not in favor of a forfeit are automatically "against or not first for" the health and safety of kids, and yes Ryan didnt explicitly say that, but he implicitly inferred it. Where is the line skewed with all of this?

There is a Difference is being a bad team and about to get beat by a whole lot of points compared to Unsafe for the lesser team. Those 2 aren't the same. I live closer to Blacksburg High than I do Giles High. I know a ton of people in BBurg from school staff to a couple assistants to a couple of parents. I know for a fact, an absolute fact, thst BBurg has 20 to 23 healthy players and they absolutely do not have only 12 as claimed. It's a DAMN lie, period. They forfeited not because of it being "unsafe." They forfeited because they were going to lose by a ton of points and it's very easy to forfeit under the "heartstrings" of "player safety," when it is often not a player safety issue. 

The above are my opinions with one exception, the Blacksburg healthy players thing is a fact, not opinion. They have well over 20 players healthy and the Coach, AD, and Principal of Blacksburg knows dang well that is true.

[V-Cats 472]

On 10/31/2023 at 10:50 AM, chipinbogey said:

Ironically enough, since the bleachers were installed on the visitor's side at Grundy, they have not hosted a state semifinal game while appearing in two on the road.

Tear em out!!

[S10SQUAREBODY4LIFE 232]

Might be something we forgot to check.  The trade deadline was October 31st and they've not updated their player transaction page so they might not have acquired enough to cover who left.  lol 

[Hokiebird7 1,395]

3 hours ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said:

I prefer 6 playoff teams and less forfeits with some sort of system that equally focuses on the team that was forfeited on/rewards them. I don't think my logic is off here and don't think it's unreasonable to do both at the same.

As for Ryan's statement about the health of the kids first. Very valid, but what's NOT valid is the assumption that fans not in favor of a forfeit are automatically "against or not first for" the health and safety of kids, and yes Ryan didnt explicitly say that, but he implicitly inferred it. Where is the line skewed with all of this?

There is a Difference is being a bad team and about to get beat by a whole lot of points compared to Unsafe for the lesser team. Those 2 aren't the same. I live closer to Blacksburg High than I do Giles High. I know a ton of people in BBurg from school staff to a couple assistants to a couple of parents. I know for a fact, an absolute fact, thst BBurg has 20 to 23 healthy players and they absolutely do not have only 12 as claimed. It's a DAMN lie, period. They forfeited not because of it being "unsafe." They forfeited because they were going to lose by a ton of points and it's very easy to forfeit under the "heartstrings" of "player safety," when it is often not a player safety issue. 

The above are my opinions with one exception, the Blacksburg healthy players thing is a fact, not opinion. They have well over 20 players healthy and the Coach, AD, and Principal of Blacksburg knows dang well that is true.

Exactly right....I knew this from the start....that's what I called them cowards...has nothing to do with not enough healthy players....just a BS excuse because they are chicken shits

[SWVAgridiron 1,443]

They gave up 77 points to LB in a half earlier this season. It doesn’t get much worse than that so they might as well take another one on the chin. Like I stated earlier, they had 20 healthy looking kids dressed out last week at the end of the PH game. Blacksburg and Auburn’s head coaches must be brothers.