BandanaVTDavis4321 Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, sixcat said: If you have two coaches with brains, do you have any coaches with brains? Only 2 strategists, the rest is all tactical and operational level. (I just read an article on military leadership levels today). I had to throw it in here. MountainFootball, many can have "brains," but if they have ego and narcissism with the brains, then it's a problem. Heck, only takes one at the top to have zero humility and narcissistic personality to crap the whole bed. Mountain Football, SwvaOG and Tru Blue72 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Account Deleted Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 My comment was meant to be a joke. A take on the "if you have two QB's, do you have a QB" mantra. Not that I could do a lot better, but I see an awful lot of coaches in this region that have little to nothing in terms of operational or tactical strategy intelligence. I see a lot of "let's pound our head against a brick wall and see which one breaks first" strategy. BandanaVTDavis4321 and Pickett 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Blue Tornado said: What about one of the current assistants going to the head coaching job? What about one of the assistants' daddy as HC and keep the two assistants? I don't think anyone would not like said person as HC as one of Richlands' beloved football greats! Mind you, Im still of the opinion all new may be best but if not all new, the above might work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tru Blue72 Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said: What about one of the assistants' daddy as HC and keep the two assistants? I don't think anyone would not like said person as HC as one of Richlands' beloved football greats! Mind you, Im still of the opinion all new may be best but if not all new, the above might work. 0-10 record screams ALL NEW!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said: What about one of the assistants' daddy as HC and keep the two assistants? I don't think anyone would not like said person as HC as one of Richlands' beloved football greats! Mind you, Im still of the opinion all new may be best but if not all new, the above might work. I think the following statement applies for most schools, maybe not all, but most. If the issue is small town good ole boy politics, it's tough to change. Even if a completely new regime is brought in, it is often impressive how the small town and good ole boy system engulfs the new regime. This is Not always the case, but many times, it is the case. It will take some changing not just among the New Staff, but it will require some change or "discomfort" in the local population-powers that be (whoever that is, Board, Principal, AD, etc) in order to be successful. You see a guy like the former Galax Coach do wonders, but then he goes to Pulaski and still did pretty good, but tough resistance with the culture there that is just entrenched in 1993. Graham's Glynn Carlock comes to mind. Carlock of course was an insider as part of the Graham system, but in a small way, somewhat of an outsider. He lived in Bluefield, WV. He had a little distance from the small town political stuff, maybe not much, but some, and of course, he had great leadership qualities. He just wasn't going to allow the BS and had buy in. Finding great leaders is tough man. It ain't easy, but there are some out there that are special and you get the right one, and things can turn quickly. Best wishes for the Blues redtiger and SwvaOG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedblue89 Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Tru Blue72 said: I suggest letting the School Board Supervisor of Secondary Education be the coach, after all he thinks he knows more about coaching football than anyone else, so let him show everyone how it is done. Funny, but not funny. Tru Blue72 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Account Deleted Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said: I think the following statement applies for most schools, maybe not all, but most. If the issue is small town good ole boy politics, it's tough to change. Even if a completely new regime is brought in, it is often impressive how the small town and good ole boy system engulfs the new regime. This is Not always the case, but many times, it is the case. It will take some changing not just among the New Staff, but it will require some change or "discomfort" in the local population-powers that be (whoever that is, Board, Principal, AD, etc) in order to be successful. You see a guy like the former Galax Coach do wonders, but then he goes to Pulaski and still did pretty good, but tough resistance with the culture there that is just entrenched in 1993. Graham's Glynn Carlock comes to mind. Carlock of course was an insider as part of the Graham system, but in a small way, somewhat of an outsider. He lived in Bluefield, WV. He had a little distance from the small town political stuff, maybe not much, but some, and of course, he had great leadership qualities. He just wasn't going to allow the BS and had buy in. Finding great leaders is tough man. It ain't easy, but there are some out there that are special and you get the right one, and things can turn quickly. Best wishes for the Blues Galax had never had anyone involved with athletics with the background of Dixon. This community was never going to question anything he did. I think you're seeing some of that erode now. The basketball program essentially lost Verl Brown and Dixon at the same time and it hasn't recovered. Too many people in the community chipping away at the foundation of the program with the mindset, they know more than the coaching staff. It takes a certain strength and leadership to overcome those cultural issues every community has in one form or fashion. 1inStripes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 53 minutes ago, Tru Blue72 said: 0-10 record screams ALL NEW!!! I'm not disputing that. I'm still of the opinion all new but I'm doubtful that happens. I don't have a dog in the fight but I'd like to see the program rebound because it makes all of us better when our three county teams are competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan64 Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 JIMMY MCGEE! Gridiron60 and Tru Blue72 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westisthebest Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 8:50 AM, Blue Tornado said: Ronnie Davis started coaching this fall and then quit so I don’t know why they would give it to him. Well maybe I was right. Heard from a good source that they offered Davis but he turned it down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Tornado Posted November 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Westisthebest said: Well maybe I was right. Heard from a good source that they offered Davis but he turned it down That he turned it down recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Westisthebest said: Well maybe I was right. Heard from a good source that they offered Davis but he turned it down Can you really blame him after they gave the position to Wells after Mance retired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westisthebest Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Blue Tornado said: That he turned it down recently? Thats wat I was told. I wouldn't take it to the bank but the source is usually accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedblue89 Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Blue Tornado said: That he turned it down recently? 13 hours ago, Westisthebest said: Well maybe I was right. Heard from a good source that they offered Davis but he turned it down That’s hard to believe that he would turn it down, but anything is possible. He is already getting crucified as the basketball HC and with his quitter past, he’s probably already planning his exit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityofRaven Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 Heard through the grapevine that late last night some guys in Red Ash were cooking meth and actually made an Ernie Hicks hologram so... I think we've found our coach. Gridiron60, Tru Blue72, Bigrhsfan and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, cityofRaven said: Heard through the grapevine that late last night some guys in Red Ash were cooking meth and actually made an Ernie Hicks hologram so... I think we've found our coach. This is the way. redtiger, cityofRaven, bleedblue89 and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT+h Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 What does this job look like How many coaches are staying, How many can a new guy bring? How good was JV and middle school? Can it be turned around quickly? Cousin_Hoyt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techfan Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 59 minutes ago, TnT+h said: What does this job look like How many coaches are staying, How many can a new guy bring? How good was JV and middle school? Can it be turned around quickly? I don't think you can bring very many in because if the old guys are employed as teachers or inside school system its not like they are leaving their full-time jobs just because they don't coach anymore. You'd have to find a load of assistant coaches willing to move to a place and coach for a $2000 stipend or hope they get full time jobs. People always say clean house and bring in your own assistants but thats not really possible for most of SWVA jobs you are stuck with people who teach at the school or already work in the area. It cannot be turned around quickly baring some influx or transfers or the ones who transferred out coming back because the JV and middle school teams had very little talent SwvaOG and redtiger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tru Blue72 Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, TnT+h said: What does this job look like How many coaches are staying, How many can a new guy bring? How good was JV and middle school? Can it be turned around quickly? Haven't heard anything from the political machine (School Board) on coaches. JV and Middle School both had some good upcoming talent, but they are just hard working country boys with everyday hard working parents, not part of the "Good Old Buddy Club" Richlands has seen used lately, so many of them will probably transfer or choose not to play. If it continues to be a rgeular thing, these hard working everyday working class players won't get to see the field except for being practice dummies. In order for things to improve, this is the situation a new coach will face. The new HC will have to have a good fortitude to be able to play talent instead of Buddy Ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwvaOG Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 Me thinks there are more options than the board may realize and they are pretty good options if it all comes together. There are some good people over there that are working to get this right. I caveat that with the usual beware small town politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
land_rider Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 What about Dennis Vault or Freddie Simon and all new assistants? Just putting that out there! Or maybe let the tax payers decide by voting, this crap of putting guys in there that don’t know football has got to stop ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbgfan Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 No nothing, and with playoffs here, think this will delay any potential candidates openly being considered until playoffs are over. I have a gut feeling on whom I think could be offered, but will see if it comes to fruition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, land_rider said: What about Dennis Vault or Freddie Simon and all new assistants? Just putting that out there! Or maybe let the tax payers decide by voting, this crap of putting guys in there that don’t know football has got to stop ! Are you trying to say Jeff Tarter “don’t know football”?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ryan4VT said: Are you trying to say Jeff Tarter “don’t know football”?!? That’s what I was wondering by his comment. Tarter definitely knows football. He was unfortunately appointed captain of a ship that was already sinking. I still think he did the best he could all things considered and stepped up when no one was willing. I wish him all the best and hope they find someone to build the program back up. Folks need to realize, it’s not a one season “fix”. It will take some determination and dedication of a strong coach and the Blues’ fan base needs to be supportive and give some grace to whomever takes over. The powers that be need to leave the person alone. Just my thoughts anyway. Ryan4VT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Account Deleted Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 10 hours ago, land_rider said: Vault I think this “take” needs to be locked away in a “vault!” Ryan4VT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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